Radar gun for measuring smash speeds

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  1. evylgrynn

    evylgrynn Regular Member

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    Has anyone seen this done before?
    We are running a tournament in about 3 weeks, and I am trying to figure out a way to have a hardest smash competition, where highest speed gets a prize (a digital camera) I have contacted the local police, and they are going to see if their radar guns work on badminton shuttles, I was also looking at sports stores, they sell radar guns for use in baseball, etc, I know it is difficult to measure something the size of a shuttle

    I was wondering if anyone knows of a radar system that will work, I think it would be a fun event to have during a tournament. Thanks in advance
     
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    I have an idea. Why not wrap a tape with an aluminum layer on top to the the shuttlecock head! Aluminum should greatly magnifies the radar cross section of the shuttle.

     
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    yes (slow) and no (very fast).
    shuttle is not a solid object.
    top shuttle speed is in the rangle of 300 kph, dunno consumer rated radar gun is that accurate
     
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    it would improve the sensing and speed reading up to a point.
    the cork is still a small object
     
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    hey

    i dont have any suggestions, but when you find out the fastest smash speed, id be glad to know which racket it was made with and what speed it was :p :p :p :p
     
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    It would probably need a military radar :D:D

    You know, the one you have seen it in the movies, where they track missiles.... :p
     
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    Yonex claims their Amortec 700 3U can generate a speed of 364km/hr.
     
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    Did they say anything about the new AT800 yet? :)
     
  9. evylgrynn

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    I saw one sports radar that claims to be accurate up to 250 mph, so I dont think anyone at the tourney would break that, and if they can, I hope I dont play them :)

    would the tape idea work? would I just tape some aluminum foil around the cork or is there a tape with metal side that would work? i dont really know much about radar guns, but I would really like to do this.
     
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    Won't using an aluminium foil and glue alter the weight of the birdie... changing the flight dynamics of the shuttle?

     
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    Take off the original tape off and glue the new tape with Al.

     
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    i think Al foil over the cork is do-able.
     
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    i've once used no brand bird, heavy..i meant really heavy headed!! and shes really flying lika a bullet, i bet speed will be more than 250mph.
     
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    maybe I will try the tape trick and buy a sports gun, Im sure that it will be able to read MY smash, the only problem is that mine might be too slow, hopefully it reads under 50kph :D

    if that doesnt work, maybe the cops radar will work, one guy thats coming has been clocked over 300kph before, so I would like to see that
     
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    I've played around with a radar used to measure shuttle speed. Looked something like this:
    http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/speedcheck-radar.html

    Just gotta be careful because it will pick up racquet speed if you're too close. And depending on where the feeder stands, it might pick up the speed of that racquet.
    As for calibration, not a big deal if you're looking for the fastest. As long as everyone is on the same bias, it's ok. The fastest might not be 500km/h or whatever, but it would the fastest at the tournment. Good luck with the tournament.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion, actually a store in town happened to have that exact one, so I picked it up, I'm going to try it out tonite, which way would work best, smashing from behind it, or towards it? Hopefully it will work, the only thing is its highest range is 150mph. We'll see if it works though
     
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    At the Swiss Open, the high-speed camera captured the speed of the shuttlecock at a distance of 10 cm after leaving the racquet. The recorded speed was in the range of 170 mph to 225 mph. So, you might consider positioning the radar gun 50 cm to 100 cm away from the impact of the racquet and the shuttlecock. It would allow your radar to capture the shuttlecock's speed. As you might already know, a shuttlecock slows down exponentially.

     
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    well, we tried this radar out, I'm not sure if it is picking up the shuttle, sometimes it seems like it is, but other times it is just showing what seems like random numbers. how did you position it when reading smashes? I've tried smashing from behind as well as in front of it, its kind of iffy though. thanks for the help
     

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