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    Quote Originally Posted by laughable c.
    that's exactly the point i was trying to make. i have NEVER seen another professional player make the mistakes that SHe made. have YOu ever seen another hit a shuttlecock right into the net like an untrained player? and the countless no. of misses. it's almost hilarious.
    i have. including players like Gao Ling, Ra, Minarti, any of them playing on a bad day or under tremendous pressure will make simple mistakes.

    i agree that Emms' technique isn't the smoothest, but i also think your accusatoin of Emms is a bit too biased and not objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun
    i agree that Emms' technique isn't the smoothest, but i also think your accusation of Emms is a bit too biased and not objective.
    ok. i guess i'll agree that people do get nervous esp. during something as big as the olympic finals and thus, make these kinda trips. just the same, i
    really haven't seen somebody make that many at such times... i was prepared to see high quality playing. after all, it wasn't easy to reach the finals, rite..

    but you really can't say i'm accusing emms, or am being biased. like i said again, all i'm disagreeing is the statment made about gail emms being #1. chill out, ok? i'm far from trying to bring anyone down. sorry if i sounded harsh or anything..

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    Laughable c.

    Gathering from your other posts, I am sure that you're a Chinese team fanatic and not just in badminton. So I think that you shouldn't try to justify your "objectivity" when you're obviously so biased towards one side. Not only does it sounded lame, you insult other people's intelligence with your rationale.

    Anybody who qualified for the Olympics and played for his/her country should not be compared to the working stiffs among us who only play recreationally. These athletes have shown extraordinary dedication to their sports to play for their countries, especially when some of them have to pay their own way there.

    Also, I think it's safe to say that most Asian badminton teams are better supported by their government than Non-Asian ones, so I felt that they deserved my support due to their additional obstacles more than the other more 'professional' teams. Yeah, they may not be as good as the powerhouse teams but that doesn't mean they don't deserve to win.


    Quote Originally Posted by laughable c.
    that's exactly the point i was trying to make. i have NEVER seen another professional player make the mistakes that SHe made. have YOu ever seen another hit a shuttlecock right into the net like an untrained player? and the countless no. of misses. it's almost hilarious.

    ok, i suppose i DID exaggerate a little about us being on par at badminton; FOR as i pointed out before, im not an exquisite player!.. but the MAIN msg i was trying to get across was: she isn't a very good player, let alone be #1!!

    also, the 'neutral' i meant was, to put aside partiality for her and to adopt a proper mind set to judge to way she plays..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappy75
    Laughable c.

    1. Gathering from your other posts, I am sure that you're a Chinese team fanatic and not just in badminton. So I think that you shouldn't try to justify your "objectivity" when you're obviously so biased towards one side. Not only does it sounded lame, you insult other people's intelligence with your rationale.

    3. Also, I think it's safe to say that most Asian badminton teams are better supported by their government than Non-Asian ones, so I felt that they deserved my support due to their additional obstacles more than the other more 'professional' teams. Yeah, they may not be as good as the powerhouse teams but that doesn't mean they don't deserve to win.
    1. thanks for taking the trouble of understanding me better... but i think you need a deeper insight of me. because if not, you're bound to get lost.you're already heading that-a-way. firstly, you're right about me as china's supporter. but i don't usually talk through my heart. that said, i may be all for supporting the chinese, but i wouldn't criticise another plainly because of that. d'you get what i mean? how can i put it plainer; if zhang/gao won by obvious stroke of luck and gail/partner were truly the better pair, i would not hesitate to admit it. sure, i'd feel damp my team lost, but i'm not one who likes to live in DENIAL!

    3. i can't say that i totally get what you mean by your 3rd para...are you trying to say that because they are not better supported by their government, so they deserved to win players who are decidely better than them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laughable c.
    3. i can't say that i totally get what you mean by your 3rd para...are you trying to say that because they are not better supported by their government, so they deserved to win players who are decidely better than them?
    I think he's only saying that he has the natural tendency to support the "weakest"... (countries)

    His point was also that players who don't get as much government support need to fight much harder to get to that level.
    However I think english team has rather good government support compared to others...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven
    However I think english team has rather good government support compared to others...
    wholly agreed upon

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    Actually, alots of Olympic athletes are more amateurs than we thought. Not only do they have to balance work and their commitment to their passion, some of them ended paying for the experience of just being in contention. Government support can only go so far for so many sports out there. If badminton is not a major sport then there's less funds for it. So the athletes may not be the best cuz they don't have the luxury of devoting most of their time to their sports like the Asian teams, but they maintain enough competitive standard to compete in the games. What I am saying is... those guys have gone through alot of hardship to be able to compete. For that alone, they deserved my respect and thus my support even though the chance of them winning gold is next to impossible. IMO, you deserves to win if you in the finals and you played well against formidable oppositions.

    Quote Originally Posted by laughable c.
    3. i can't say that i totally get what you mean by your 3rd para...are you trying to say that because they are not better supported by their government, so they deserved to win players who are decidely better than them?

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    similarly, china has that great a population. to choose the best talented and potential is nothing easy. the players themselves work AS hard if not harder in order to prove themselves and REMAIN at the top, the best.

    i think that these qualities deserves my respect and support.

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    I am not saying that they don't deserve respect and support, I am sure it's really hard to stay on the Chinese national team. However, I do take offense when you questioned the other team in the finals. Well, the Brits shouldn't be discounted as long as they got a fighting chance (and the brits did).

    Quote Originally Posted by laughable c.
    similarly, china has that great a population. to choose the best talented and potential is nothing easy. the players themselves work AS hard if not harder in order to prove themselves and REMAIN at the top, the best.

    i think that these qualities deserves my respect and support.

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    can we close this thread already?

    coz its dragging, getting boring and i dont see it doing any good for BF. just a thought tho


    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by jug8man
    can we close this thread already?

    coz its dragging, getting boring and i dont see it doing any good for BF. just a thought tho


    cheers
    sure, jug. but not before this.

    cappy, did i ever question the brits ability for entering the finals? must've been a serious memory damage. sorry, pal! i certainly didn't mean that.

    once again. am only arguing that gail isn't #1. let's all relax, now shall we?

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