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    Difficult to tell but from what I see the shuttle is still in the air and is going to touch the line so it's IN...

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    If it were still in the air, I would say it looks like it will land in.

    I was assuming Kwun had grabbed the picture just as the shuttle landed.
    Kwun, you wanna confirm?

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    Out. The tip should be hitting the outer side first, before the weigh pulls it down to look like an In. Very close, but I still say it's an out.

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    im assuming that that is the moment of 'touch down'.
    coz: why would kwun show a picture of a shuttle that has not 'landed' and ask us to judge in or out?

    if so i would definetely say it is out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Break-My-String
    "If you cannot 'clearly' see it out, then call it in".
    I don't think that would be a right call.

    How about putting as "If you can't clearly see it in, then call it out"..
    It just depends who should reap the benefit of doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmad
    I don't think that would be a right call.

    How about putting as "If you can't clearly see it in, then call it out"..
    It just depends who should reap the benefit of doubt.
    Good sportsmanship dictates that you should always give your opponent the benefit of the doubt. In this case however, I'd still be inclined to call this shot OUT cuz that is what my eyes are telling me in this case.

    The only thing that prevents me from saying that my call is absolutely correct is the inferiror quality of the photographic evidence presented.

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    I dont think the shuttle has landed, therefor cant make a decision.

    If that was the position landed, then I would say out. The point of the cork that would have hit the line first would not have been in contact with the Line.

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    Default Out!

    I know that any part of the shuttle touching any part of the line should be called in, but when you look carefully at the picture, AND also think about the shape of the shuttle's cork, then logically the tip of the cork will touch the floor (beyond the line) before the inner part touches the outer edge, so it should be called OUT.

    This looks like a clear that has dropped vertically, it would be different if it was a smash that was travelling almost horizontally, then you could say the side of the cork did touch the line first.

    Just IMHO.

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    If we see the picture, most of us will say it is IN.
    But if we are a lines men on the field, I think most us will call it OUT.


    Because Kwun show us a picture, so I say IN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Nicholls
    I'm surprised so many are saying it's IN
    I'm surprised some are undecided (even tho reason was given)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jug8man
    im assuming that that is the moment of 'touch down'.
    coz: why would kwun show a picture of a shuttle that has not 'landed' and ask us to judge in or out?

    if so i would definetely say it is out.
    Exactly, no line judges nor umpire can make a line call if the shuttle hasn't landed on the court surface. A proper call is based on visual on the shuttle being landed and not from estimation of its projectory flight angle. So polling a line call before shuttle being landed is pointless and i assumed that is not the case here
    Last edited by cooler; 09-20-2004 at 10:08 AM.

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    just to clarify, the pic does show the moment the shuttle hits the ground..

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    I will call it "IN" as long as the bird touches the line. With the angle of that bird is heading, looks like is going to touch the line for sure.

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    i don't see any part of the shuttle touching the line ... for me this is always "out" .

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    that picture looked like it used edge enhancement. Basically, darkening/lightening the edges of high contrast areas, effectively making the line look bigger than it actually is.

    Based on that, i'd say it's out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun
    just to clarify, the pic does show the moment the shuttle hits the ground..

    Perfect....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun
    just to clarify, the pic does show the moment the shuttle hits the ground..
    So, how was it called IRL? that's what interests us!

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