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    Thumbs up Out

    Out!!!


    Definitely, an In wouldn't be too much of a scene as the shuttle barely or rather dun actualyy landing in the area of the line. The trajectory of the shuttle itsself didn;t show that it is going in, rather it was going out.

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    I am sure the answer can be revealed by doing detail image analysis but hey this is sports, the linesman makes the call.

    For a close call like that, the answer is depending on the linesman. If I were the linesman, I would call it IN because my judgement is the head of the shuttle touches the line. Others might call it an OUT, which is acceptable.....that is what makes a live sports different from a video game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigredlemon
    that picture looked like it used edge enhancement. Basically, darkening/lightening the edges of high contrast areas, effectively making the line look bigger than it actually is.
    nope. it was a frame capture, any "visual effect", blame the tape!

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    28 in
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    this poll is closer than i thought!

    i will let you guys know how the linesman called it at midnight PST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun
    28 in
    27 out

    this poll is closer than i thought!

    i will let you guys know how the linesman called it at midnight PST.
    LOL, at least we do know now that about half of the respondents are not ready to be line judges

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    My call would have been "out!".

    At that camera angle, shots very close to the line, that seemingly look like they're catching the line, can actually be just out if one were to be sitting where the linesmen are and looking directly down the line. In that photo, the shuttle cork actually looks mostly out. The first contact point of the cork even looking to be outside the line. So I would say when looking properly directly down the line, the shuttle cork would have clearly contacted the ground outside the line/court.

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    I voted "OUT!"

    I would like the shuttle to be "safely in" to be called in. If it's hairline like in the picture, I wouldn't hesitate to call it out, even if half the cork where on the line, and half was out.

    It would help the hitter, I would think, to adjust his/her strokes to account for draft, irregular shuttle speed etc.

    -dave

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    In (if I win the point )

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    i voted in hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    LOL, at least we do know now that about half of the respondents are not ready to be line judges
    Hey Cooler, hope you have the right half!

    (BTW, I am a qualified Line Judge)

    Comment on IBF test rule change on Umpire over ruling Line Judges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jump_smash
    Hey Cooler, hope you have the right half!

    (BTW, I am a qualified Line Judge)

    Comment on IBF test rule change on Umpire over ruling Line Judges?
    *cough* stay in topic. though feel free to start another thread on it...

    so... what's your call, in or out?

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    He called it in, on the first page

    -dave

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    ops..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun
    *cough* stay in topic. though feel free to start another thread on it...
    Sorry.....

    Quote Originally Posted by kwun
    ops..............
    That's okay, yes I called in. Contact with any part of the line is in.
    (noting contact is with the part of shuttle that first contacts the court - the cork)

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    The picture quality sux. But I think it's IN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timeless
    My call would have been "out!".

    At that camera angle, shots very close to the line, that seemingly look like they're catching the line, can actually be just out if one were to be sitting where the linesmen are and looking directly down the line. In that photo, the shuttle cork actually looks mostly out. The first contact point of the cork even looking to be outside the line. So I would say when looking properly directly down the line, the shuttle cork would have clearly contacted the ground outside the line/court.
    I agree. Out!

    The bird appears closer in due to the camera angle. This is why in sports like rowing or swimming a line is moving line is sometimes superimposed on the action in order to correct for this effect. This is also why line judges sit looking directly down the line, in order to see more clearly.

    Of course, people always make mistakes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wood_22_chuck
    I voted "OUT!"

    I would like the shuttle to be "safely in" to be called in. If it's hairline like in the picture, I wouldn't hesitate to call it out, even if half the cork where on the line, and half was out.

    It would help the hitter, I would think, to adjust his/her strokes to account for draft, irregular shuttle speed etc.

    -dave
    That's beside the point. The rule is that if the base of the shuttlecock touches any part of the line, it's in. Just because you like to be safely in is not an option

    As a linejudge, you need to call the shot as you see it (regardless of whether you think it might be in or out). It's either IN or OUT or you signal unsighted.

    In most rec games, I would give the benefit of the doubt to the opponents.

    I don't understand it. A number of you specify that it should be out regardless of whether the shuttle touches the line or part of the line. The rules are there to be enforced. Can you imagine if you are playing and in the middle of the game, you opponent call you for a fault because they felt like it or felt that they should because that was how they feel without any justification or application of the rules.
    Last edited by Winex West Can; 09-20-2004 at 08:15 PM.

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