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    Default Rules when reaching 14-14

    I had an argument yesterday with an older player regarding the rule to continue to 15 or 17 when both reach 14.
    He claimed that it was also a choice when both had 13 and i told him that it was some time ago since that rule changed.

    Does anyone know when it changed? And what it changed from?

    Any other important changes in the rules over the years that you know and that is interesting as you see it?

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    Hi Framerate

    If your opponent chases up to 14-14, you will have the choice to go for straight meaning the first to reach 15 points will win the game or a choice to duece to 17 points.

    Deuce at 13 all does not apply anymore since the changed of rules quite sometime back.

    Hope clarification helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Framerate
    I had an argument yesterday with an older player regarding the rule to continue to 15 or 17 when both reach 14.
    He claimed that it was also a choice when both had 13 and i told him that it was some time ago since that rule changed.

    Does anyone know when it changed? And what it changed from?

    Any other important changes in the rules over the years that you know and that is interesting as you see it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Framerate
    He claimed that it was also a choice when both had 13 and i told him that it was some time ago since that rule changed.

    Does anyone know when it changed? And what it changed from?
    In the old days you could set at 13-13 and 14-14.
    Setting only happened once in a game though. You didn't set at 13-13 and then again at 14-14 .

    At 13-13 receiver could choose 3 or 5 more points
    i.e. to set to 16 or 18

    At 14-14 receiver could choose 1 or 3 more points
    i.e. to set to 15 or 17

    setting at 13-13 was in force in 1995


    Anyone remember what the scoring for Women's singles was like at this time?

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    In WS the choice was
    at 9-9 : 2 or 3 points (to 11 or 12)
    at 10-10 : 1 or 2 points (to 11 or 12)

    By the way Neil, the choice at 13-13 was not 3 or 5 but 2 or 5! (to 15 or 18 or course)
    No game has ever been played in 16 points as far as I know...
    The rule was change in order to make it simpler to understand, I can't remember the exact year though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven
    By the way Neil, the choice at 13-13 was not 3 or 5 but 2 or 5! (to 15 or 18 or course)
    oops

    This is what i was told when I first started playing. Not at a club, just with some people from work. And then it changed to the current rules not long after I started.

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    I wonder what year the rule changed. My opponent claimed that it must be a new rule, which it is not. To my joy he asked me, during the game, where this could be read and i happened to have the rules with me in my bag.

    Oh, I lost the game by the way.

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    Default change of rule

    As far as i remember, this change of rule occured in 1999 or 2000, when i came back to badminton...

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    i think it was August 1998.

    along with abandoning setting at 13-all. the change also abandon resetting the score after a setting.

    ie. it continues on at 14-14, 15-14 etc, instead of 0-0 1-0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun
    i think it was August 1998.

    along with abandoning setting at 13-all. the change also abandon resetting the score after a setting.

    ie. it continues on at 14-14, 15-14 etc, instead of 0-0 1-0.
    Was it that long ago? Maybe I'm getting old.

    PS Replying to kwun on two different web pages is getting freaky, I'm going to bed :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Framerate
    Any other important changes in the rules over the years that you know and that is interesting as you see it?
    Certain types of accidental hits used to be illegal--called carries, slings, throws, etc. Now I think the only thing not allowed is the double-hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Nicholls
    In the old days you could set at 13-13 and 14-14.
    Setting only happened once in a game though. You didn't set at 13-13 and then again at 14-14 .

    At 13-13 receiver could choose 3 or 5 more points
    i.e. to set to 16 or 18
    If I'm not wrong, the set of 13-13 (although now cancelled) is 2 or 5 more points:
    i.e. to set to 15 or 18
    The first option is always the choice which does not extend the game.
    Last edited by kenlmw; 09-30-2004 at 03:20 AM.

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    Default setting

    If my memory hasn't deserted me, it wasn't 2 or 5 as such at 13-13, you could choose between setting to 5 or play straight through but if you chose the latter then if the score reached 14-14 you could then still set to 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerry
    If my memory hasn't deserted me, it wasn't 2 or 5 as such at 13-13, you could choose between setting to 5 or play straight through but if you chose the latter then if the score reached 14-14 you could then still set to 3.
    Yes you're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Californian
    Certain types of accidental hits used to be illegal--called carries, slings, throws, etc. Now I think the only thing not allowed is the double-hit.
    Double-hit is allowed as long as it is only one forward movement. You are not allowed to hit twice. If that´s what meant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Californian
    Certain types of accidental hits used to be illegal--called carries, slings, throws, etc. Now I think the only thing not allowed is the double-hit.
    Double hits are allowed, provided that they take place as part of the same stroke. Carrying, throwing or slinging the shuttle is not allowed. The relevant law:

    It is 'fault':

    13.6 if, in play, the shuttle:
    13.6.1 is caught and held on the racket and then slung during the execution of a stroke;
    13.6.2 is hit twice in succession by the same player with two strokes;
    13.6.3 is hit by a player and the player's partner successively; or
    13.6.4 touches a player's racket and continues towards the back of that player's court;

    The wording is quite specifically designed to allow double hits, such as frequently take place with sliced shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerry
    If my memory hasn't deserted me, it wasn't 2 or 5 as such at 13-13, you could choose between setting to 5 or play straight through but if you chose the latter then if the score reached 14-14 you could then still set to 3.
    This exact situation occurred in the 1983 World Championship final between Liem Swee King and Icuk Sugiarto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Framerate
    Any other important changes in the rules over the years that you know and that is interesting as you see it?
    Scoring system trying out 7 points, best of 5 games. It was OK an an experiment.

    The stupid thing that happened after that was when reverting back to longer games, they put mixed at 11 points. It was important because it was so idiotic. Ladies doubles was sensible at 11 points (games became much more exciting); but mixed at 11 points

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