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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticHLE
    Dang...I just checked their site. So expensive! $10 for peak-time drop-in (Regular days)...I don't see how that is a low-drop in fee as promised by the first post in this thread. I haven't been to the gym yet, but now that I've seen the price on this thing, I am kinda discouraged to play there even if the gym is awesome...and probably others too. I mean, at this rate, it's ~$480 for a yearly membership, which is like even more expensive than City Beach.

    I'll give more feedback after I visit the gym today though.
    it is true that $10 is a new level for drop-ins for the Bay Area. many whom i have mentioned also says that it is high. to be fair though, you get what you paid for. a nice playing environment, convenience, top quality floor. i am afraid but i am guessing that $10 may soon become the standard rate for the few newly established clubs here.

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    Kwun, the place wasn't crowded at all today. There were empty courts, and most didn't bother to use the queuing system because of that I think.

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    It was empty today because of several tournaments, a HS one and the BA open. Both of which should have had pretty big numbers.
    As for a $10 entrance fee, i think it is pretty stiff. But! i think the point of it is to get more members. I believe tennis clubs have even HIGHER drop in rates such as $25 or so ( my friend told me this). And many ppl pay this premium btw.

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    Default Thank you for the feedbacks!

    We will look into the suggestions/comments BFers made.
    As far as the FOOD/DRINKS go, those are some ground rules we need to have them documented for liability and other issues. (Hint: As Kwun put it...the rules are there so that no one will misbehave too extensively , otherwise we are cool.)

    In case you didnt notice, we did install drinking fountains beside the rest area, so that you rehydrate yourself with chilled and filtered water. You can of course bring your own water or empty bottle to fill up from the fountain.

    Here're some bird's eye view of the gym. (Actually, we took it from the scissors lift we rented to install the projector) When we're done finetuning the final details, we hope Kwun can stop by to take better pics for the forum.


    Office/Reception Room/Court 1&3


    Court 3-9


    Rest Area & Queuing System Terminal


    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    u guys r so lucky, drop only 10 bucks for peak time.

    http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/sho...ght=annual+due


    any pics of the facility?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubcfremont
    We will look into the suggestions/comments BFers made.
    when it is your turn on the court, how much court time do you get?

    20 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 game, 2 games...?

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    All courts are challenge courts except for the 2 Elite courts for advanced players.

    On Challenge courts, winner will stay for 3 consecutive games, and 20 mins per game on a 15 pt system.

    On Elite courts, winner can stay till he/she decides to retire for the day.

    These settings, are of course, subjected to change if we receive too many complaints from the guests/members.



    Quote Originally Posted by samkool
    when it is your turn on the court, how much court time do you get?

    20 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 game, 2 games...?
    Last edited by ubcfremont; 04-24-2005 at 07:51 AM.

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    hey!! i just checked out this place.. its really cooL!! i like the lights and the floors...
    but i gotta cross the dumbarton bridge to get over..
    The building looks really modern from the outside.. i like it!

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    I played at UBC on Saturday afternoon for a couple hours. I usually play a couple of times a week at Bintang.

    The floor took a bit of getting used to, but I think it was very good.

    Mixed feelings about lighting/visibility. Maybe the light colors on the walls was a bad idea? Maybe it'll be better at night or after the windows are covered, but am not very sure.

    Overall, it seems like a good facility.

    The Drop-in fee is definitely an issue, something the organizers need to pay serious attention to if they want to maximize the utility of the facility and get the most revenue at the same time.

    $10 drop-in fee would be a serious mistake.

    Bintang has $3/$5 peak/offpeak and it seems to do okay in providing enough of an incentive to make membership attractive, while augmenting that with a good number of drop-in players.

    UBC is definitely a better facility (presumably more expensive to build), so higher fees would be justified.

    However, every dollar over say $4/$6 would make drop-in significantly unattractive.

    If the aim is to survive only on memberships and make drop-ins excruciatingly expensive high drop-in fees will do just that.

    For a lot of people membership isn't feasible because they work/live in different cities, schedule doesn't permit playing at the same place thrice a week etc.

    The key is to make membership attractive, while getting most of the drop-in users' market as well to maximize revenue. A $10 drop in fee (plus $3 to $5 that it typically costs for shuttlecocks) would ensure that the drop-in guys stay away completely.

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    i am surprised to see that the major complain is the visibility. i talked to a couple of badminton players during a tournament on sunday and they too have the same concerns: visibility and price. visibility is certainly something that can be fixed after the owners figure out the reason. price however, will probably have to depend on operation cost and popularity.

    certainly not an easy job to run a badminton facilities, my hats off to those who take the risk to do so.

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    visibility a problem. like many basketball gyms. can be done easily when change to the long lights like bintang.

    $10 is expensive. some hs gyms are free and have good floors. reactivation fee is very high. if sick for one month, still have to pay monthly fees. what other gyms charge? will wait and hope they are cheaper because all opening soon.

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    i also forgot to mention visibility... i didn't care for it.

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    Exclamation $5/$7 United Badminton Club (UBC) (OPEN)

    The official drop-in prices are $5 (off-peak) and $7 (peak). An increase in these two prices will take place ONLY when (1) we reach our goal in membership or (2) due to inflation (as usual:crying.

    We are officially OPEN for play and welcome you all to visit.

    Thank you for your interest and support.

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    Wow....with all the reviews already posted, I guess I am a little too late in posting mine. But I agree with most of the content here with the reviews posted by other BC'ers.

    To emphasize I really like the floor. Can definitely feel the softness in it compared to hardwood floors in other gyms. I wish I lived closer to this place, so I could visit here more often.

    It is easy to spot the bird on high clears, or even net drops. The black ceiling is a good idea. I found it difficult to spot it for smashes or high drives, I think it is because of the lighter color on the two toned colors on the wall. The lighter color being on the above net level.

    It looks really neat, as it was the first day I played there, and hopefully the quality of the floors can be maintained with the same standard for(ever)
    I am not sure of the wear on tear on these mats, as to how thick they are, or how soon they wear out.

    Overall, very nice gym! I like the floor and ceiling height here to be better, and I like the color contrasts in Bintang to be better.

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    KrantiKT

    Let me know when you're going there again. I demand a rematch. I think the last couple of times you kicked my butt so I want a revenge.

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    Default Visiblity

    The visibility is an issue we are working on. Some people complaint about it, some didnt bother and said they're just fine. But we're adding large curtains (just in case) to divide the courts in the gym's center aisle and court 1&2. Please be patient . The curtains should be up in about 2 weeks.


    Quote Originally Posted by krantikt
    Wow....with all the reviews already posted, I guess I am a little too late in posting mine. But I agree with most of the content here with the reviews posted by other BC'ers.

    To emphasize I really like the floor. Can definitely feel the softness in it compared to hardwood floors in other gyms. I wish I lived closer to this place, so I could visit here more often.

    It is easy to spot the bird on high clears, or even net drops. The black ceiling is a good idea. I found it difficult to spot it for smashes or high drives, I think it is because of the lighter color on the two toned colors on the wall. The lighter color being on the above net level.

    It looks really neat, as it was the first day I played there, and hopefully the quality of the floors can be maintained with the same standard for(ever)
    I am not sure of the wear on tear on these mats, as to how thick they are, or how soon they wear out.

    Overall, very nice gym! I like the floor and ceiling height here to be better, and I like the color contrasts in Bintang to be better.

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    Default Coaching Sessions

    United Badminton Club is proud to announce the addition of Coach Liu Xiaomu and Zhou Lei to their coaching staff. The classes will begin in May 7th and private coaching session will start immediately.



    Coach Zhou Lei
    • Head coach of the Peruvian National Badminton Team and the Regatas Club, Lima, Peru, 1994-2002.
    • Gold Medals in the 1993 Badminton World Championship (women's double) and the Uber Cup (women's single)
    • Gold medal in the Asian Championship, women's double 1988.
    • Gold medal in the Asian Games, for single's women's badminton team champion.
    • 4 gold medals, 15 silvers and 5 bronzes from top tier international badminton tournaments such as the All England Championship, the French Open, the Swedish Open, Denmark Open, Malaysian Open, and the Hong Kong Open.
    • Ranked number 4 in the women's singles by the International Badminton Federation in 1992.
    Coach Liuxiaomu
    • Head Coach of the Peruvian National Badminton Team and the Regatas Club, Lima, Peru, 1994-2002.
    • Head Coach for Liaoning Men's Badminton Professional League Team, 1991-1993.
    • Head Coach for the Chiangmai Badminton Team, Chiangmai, Thailand, 1993-1994. Two of his students competed in the World Junior Championship representing Thailand in 1993.
    • Certified Class One Athlete by the Chinese Sports Ministry in 1990.
    • Selected for the Chinese Youth National Badminton Training Team in 1988.
    • 6 medals in major Chinese and international tournaments despite his untimely injury and early retirement as a professional player in 1990.
    • BS in Sports Coaching, Liaoning Institute of Physical Education, 1994.
    Coach Lei and Liu built the Peruvian National Badminton Team to a formidable force in South America and Pan America tournaments. During Lei and Liu's tenure, the Peruvian National Badminton Team had won 113 golds, 102 silvers and 121 bronzes in international tournaments. The Peruvian teams qualified for the Thomas/Uber Cup semi finals in the European section in 2000 under their leadership. They had repeatedly identified talented children and started coaching them when they were merely eight or nine years old, coached them all the way to win gold medals in the Junior Pan America Championship games, and to become top players in the Peruvian National Team. One of their students qualified for the Atlanta Olympic Games in 1996 (in men's singles, as the only player from South American to qualify for badminton in the 1996 Olympics). As a result of their success, badminton has become a popular sport in Peru.

    When Lei and Liu were serving as the Head Coaches for the Peruvian National Badminton Team, they often traveled to the US to compete in tournaments. They befriended many US top players and coaches. They realized that the US is full of talented young players and that this country has great potential for ambitious coaches like themselves. They would love to identify and train the next generation world class badminton players in the Bay Area.
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    Default Wednesday 8pm

    a few of us are heading over to UBC this wednesday around 8pm or so to test out the new club. maybe we can meet up and play some games together.

    i am not in particular good shape lately so don't expect too much of a competition...

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