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    Mathieu, that's an informative video. i will try that tomorrow for the mutli-shuttle drills.

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    Nice video, it takes some getting used to, but when you can do it you can be very consistent.
    A few tips:
    -Try and be consistent in 'throwing' the shuttle of the row. I like to throw it out a bit horizontally so the shuttle doesn't have any spin on it. Because if it spins your shot can go anywhere.
    -Put your non-racketfoot in front and feed the shuttles beside you, not in front of you. Because when you hit in front of you your lifts will go in a huge ark and you lose speed. When you hit it more to the side you can play with the pace of the shot a lot more.
    -You cannot get a service fault on feeding! I see a lot of people feeding shuttle well below their waist and complain they can't feed a driveshot or a fast lift. Don't be afraid to hit it above your waistline. I know some coaches who can feed a pretty decent smashes even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    reviving an old thread.

    i am starting to learn the technique to feed shuttle.

    i am doing as mentioned by a few, stacking 10-20 shuttle up my non-racket arm, pulling the bottom one from the stack using my racket hand, throw it a little and then hit it with the racket.

    i am OK with it but it was difficult to do precise placement, the issue i have is that after i pull each shuttle out with the racket hand and throw it, it usually don't have time to settle down and as a result, the orientation of the shuttlecock was pretty erratic.

    any tips to getting this right?
    ..are you training up your boys??....

    i think posts #2, #7 & #15 pretty much could give you the tips..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    Nice video, it takes some getting used to, but when you can do it you can be very consistent.
    A few tips:
    -Try and be consistent in 'throwing' the shuttle of the row. I like to throw it out a bit horizontally so the shuttle doesn't have any spin on it. Because if it spins your shot can go anywhere.
    -Put your non-racketfoot in front and feed the shuttles beside you, not in front of you. Because when you hit in front of you your lifts will go in a huge ark and you lose speed. When you hit it more to the side you can play with the pace of the shot a lot more.
    -You cannot get a service fault on feeding! I see a lot of people feeding shuttle well below their waist and complain they can't feed a driveshot or a fast lift. Don't be afraid to hit it above your waistline. I know some coaches who can feed a pretty decent smashes even.
    nice tips! i have problem with the spin, or from random shuttle orientation when i contact it, and it ends up going everywhere. will pay more attention to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    Nice video, it takes some getting used to, but when you can do it you can be very consistent.
    A few tips:
    -Try and be consistent in 'throwing' the shuttle of the row. I like to throw it out a bit horizontally so the shuttle doesn't have any spin on it. Because if it spins your shot can go anywhere.
    -Put your non-racketfoot in front and feed the shuttles beside you, not in front of you. Because when you hit in front of you your lifts will go in a huge ark and you lose speed. When you hit it more to the side you can play with the pace of the shot a lot more.
    -You cannot get a service fault on feeding! I see a lot of people feeding shuttle well below their waist and complain they can't feed a driveshot or a fast lift. Don't be afraid to hit it above your waistline. I know some coaches who can feed a pretty decent smashes even.
    If you want to be more consistant in feeding straight, say to the rearcourt then it is better to stand with your racket foot forwards. It may feel a little awkward but does the trick I promise you.

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    but when you do that, do you hit the shuttle beside you, or in front of you?
    If you're just feeding to one corner, that'd be fine. But if you were to feed multiple corners (while standing in the middle of the court) it's very tricky.
    Because with your racketfoot forward you'll either have to feed the shuttles from in front of you, or turn your torso very awkwardly.

    And when you feed in front of you, you can't really play with the pace of your shots. You can't drive, or lift fast, and cross-shots are way to easy to see coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    but when you do that, do you hit the shuttle beside you, or in front of you?
    If you're just feeding to one corner, that'd be fine. But if you were to feed multiple corners (while standing in the middle of the court) it's very tricky.
    Because with your racketfoot forward you'll either have to feed the shuttles from in front of you, or turn your torso very awkwardly.

    And when you feed in front of you, you can't really play with the pace of your shots. You can't drive, or lift fast, and cross-shots are way to easy to see coming.
    Feed from the side. I know it sounds awkward but it isn't really. Feet position is very similar to the ready position, ie racket slighly further forward.

    The quality and accuracy of the feed is more important than trying to return the workers replies.

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    edit *Feed from the side* I mean racket side of body not the side of the court. *racket foot slightly forward*

    Sorry about the errors - boss came in whilst I was typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachgary View Post
    Feed from the side. I know it sounds awkward but it isn't really. Feet position is very similar to the ready position, ie racket slighly further forward.

    The quality and accuracy of the feed is more important than trying to return the workers replies.
    Ohh, okay, I see.
    What I meant with the drives/fast lifts I didn't mean receive them, I meant feeding them to the worker. Quite often you see people (either racket foot forward, or side by side) feeding shuttles so far out in front of them they can only feed shots with a slow curve. Putting your non-racketfoot in front forces you to hit the shuttle beside you, so then you can drive, lift fast, drop fast. You can control the pace of feeding more easily.

    But maybe I'm just picturing your stance wrong, if you only put your racketfoot slightly in front of the other, it should be pretty easy indeed.

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    Default Some important things...

    I think some of the explanations about the feeding technique are quite good so now you should have good idea how to do it .

    I want to mention something else, which is very vital achieving high effect from the multifeeding exercises:
    1. Trajectory of the feed shuttle and position of the feeder - may be the most important...
    This first is connected with your position on the court where you feeding from.
    Second is connected with the tactical situation which you want to train. Remember that always the technical skills involves tactical elements - at least recognition of the trajectory and the spin is always involved.

    2. Moving on court while feeding - many times we do all the feeding only from one place, but in the same time we are training some tactical combinations (patterns of playing in different disciplines) and to achieve the highest effect we have to move, so the to change the angle of the trajectory of the shuttle according to the position of our player and sometimes according to the tactical situation.

    3. Spin of the shuttle - some of the strokes which we can train, especially at the net (but not only!!!) requires special spin of the shuttle and without this spin we can train it all day long with having zero effect...

    3. Correct PLM (or center of the preloaded jump) center of our player .
    Something what many coaches forget while doing multifeeding.
    If we want to achieve a correct movement as in the game, we have to be sure that our player has correct PLM position and always performing the same tactical pattern (if you make more than 1 stroke you always involve tactical pattern!) we have to be sure that he/she gets the most optimized PLM position as we want him/her to do the same in the real game. This also one more reason why we have to be sure where is our position (as feeder) and what is the trajectory of the stroke which we combine in multifeeding exercise.

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    I tend to agree with coachgary about the feeding position. I prefer a square-on stance (racket foot slightly forwards), rather than sideways, and to release the shuttle in front of my body and on my forehand side.

    The main benefit to this style is that you can use a shorter, more "wristy" racket swing. With a side-on stance and contact the shuttle farther out to the side, I find it encourages a larger swing.

    Another advantage is that you can watch the player better. If you're using a side-on stance, and hitting at the side of your body, you have to turn away more from the player as you hit the shuttle (I'm assuming you look at the shuttle, at least momentarily as you hit it).

    As jerby mentioned, avoiding spin on the shuttle drop is crucial. I find my feeds are quite accurate whenever I have a clean shuttle drop, but absolutely dreadful if the shuttle is still wobbling. Personally, I prefer to drop rather than throw the shuttle:

    • Start with a very short basic grip
    • Pluck the shuttle from out my left hand, holding the cork in my first three fingers (ring finger and little finger are holding onto the racket)
    • Move the shuttle above the intended point of impact, and make it point straight down (or slightly towards me) by supinating my forearm
    • Release the shuttle, opening all three fingers at exactly the same time
    • Drop my arm, repositioning fingers on the racket, and flick through with the wrist to hit


    Done correctly, this drop ensures the shuttle is falling straight down with little or no spin.

    I don't especially consider myself to be a good feeder, but that's what helped me become a less awful feeder.
    Last edited by Gollum; 06-18-2010 at 06:31 AM.

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    just to add, gollum - make sure our finger nails are short when we do multi shuttle feedings! and yes its all about flicking (never swing)!

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    thanks all for the tips!

    i did my first multi-shuttle drill today. i think i did pretty well. i stood with defensive stance. racket foot slightly forward, and then just plugged each shuttle off my left arm and fed it over. after a while i was pretty comfortable with it. i think success rate was ~80%. not bad for first time?

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    kwun, if you do regular multi shuttle feeding your badminton will improve!

    you will feel your hand will be faster

    next, you can also try standing on bench and feed fast shuttle - example for doubles defense

    taking 20 shuttles (2 rolls) and short fast punch, try to finish it between 20 - 25 sec!

    thats 1 rep, min is 10...

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    Use the left hand to pull the shuttle from the stack and throw the shuttle to be hit with your racquet (right hand).
    Last edited by Cheung; 06-23-2010 at 04:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    i think success rate was ~80%. not bad for first time?
    That sounds excellent. Well done.

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