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    I seem to recal a INA double specialist who used to wind the overgrip all the way up the shaft. Sigit Budiarto? Does that change the flex point?
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    Could be Lin Dan wants a more heavier head racket.

    By reducing the weight at the handle area,

    racket head feels heavier

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    I seem to recal a INA double specialist who used to wind the overgrip all the way up the shaft. Sigit Budiarto? Does that change the flex point?
    Oh yes as far as I been told Sigit is the first pioneer of this type of grip. Is that true? I dont know, but from my video collections, I could not find a player before him that uses that type of grip.

    IMO yes its changed the flex point A LOT. By shifting the hodling position up even a few cm, practically it drastically change BP, Flex point and speed.

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    Yeah I figured maybe that's why he was smashing around a lot more at the SC than in recent tournaments. The recalibrated flex point must help him to use his normal action to smash with less effort. He still has tape at the top of the frame to get the head-heavy feel he wants, but removes the cap and other stuff from the handle to compensate for the additional weight of the towel.

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    Notice his grip

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    wow..new grip??

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    But he changed back to his old grip during the 2nd game (vs PG)... what happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    But he changed back to his old grip during the 2nd game (vs PG)... what happened?
    that one was also not the old one. I notice his second racket did not have grip on the lower part of the handle and also no bottom cap

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    Maybe this is a prototype in it's raw form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoppy View Post
    that one was also not the old one. I notice his second racket did not have grip on the lower part of the handle and also no bottom cap
    The bottom cap exists on all of his racquets. The reason you don't notice it is because the bottom cap on Li Ning racquets are coloured black on the bottom part (especially Lin Dan's which are the old model with the red Li Ning logo) and with his wrapping of layers of white athletic tape around it, the black bottom cap and the red logo just disappears on low definition videos. You can however see it on high definition videos or pictures.

    If you notice the racquet that he was using against Park Sung Hwan, the racquet has noticeable parts of its paint peeled off starting from half of the shaft all the way to the cone. This shows that Lin Dan has been experimenting with this new grip style with just a few of his racquets that he has been using all this time and is varying his grip style depending on mood or feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzzards View Post
    The bottom cap exists on all of his racquets. The reason you don't notice it is because the bottom cap on Li Ning racquets are coloured black on the bottom part (especially Lin Dan's which are the old model with the red Li Ning logo) and with his wrapping of layers of white athletic tape around it, the black bottom cap and the red logo just disappears on low definition videos. You can however see it on high definition videos or pictures.

    If you notice the racquet that he was using against Park Sung Hwan, the racquet has noticeable parts of its paint peeled off starting from half of the shaft all the way to the cone. This shows that Lin Dan has been experimenting with this new grip style with just a few of his racquets that he has been using all this time and is varying his grip style depending on mood or feel.
    No its not black, I could even see the hole and the inside wooden. I wish I can find a picture or maybe a video of that.

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    It looks like a black hole to me

    Or rather some black color rubber tucked inside

    to strengthen the wooden handle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoppy View Post
    No its not black, I could even see the hole and the inside wooden. I wish I can find a picture or maybe a video of that.
    Here is my proof:

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    1. Notice the bottom of the butt cap of the racquet in the lower left corner. You can clearly see the plastic even the red Li Ning logo due to the lack of thick athlete tape wrapping.

    2. Notice how the racquet he is holding has much more athlete tape covering the butt cap bottom but there is still a clear outline of the butt cap's plastic ledges? The centre uncovered part is also too shiny and reflective to be your "hole and the wooden inside".

    This is a snapshot of a high definition video (7,347Kbps bit rate quality if you want to get technical) of Lin Dan versus Peter Gade in the Japan Open 2010 Semi Final. He may have changed it but I still have yet to see anything far unlike this picture that I have here to prove so.

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    Blitzzard, I believe your picture is not from the Sudirman cup final match, I mentioned that LD just changed his grip during Sudirman cup not JO 2010

    OK I managed to find the video: http://www.sendspace.com/file/o8954k and if you care to download and play it and stop at 42:25 you can see that there are no bottom cap on all 3 LD rackets. And the grip colour is not red as on your pic, they are black and blue grips. And LD picked up the black one. And when I look more closely on the black grip racket, the edges are so thick that it looks like wooden not athlete tape covering. There is abosolutely no bottom cap there at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoppy View Post
    OK I managed to find the video: http://www.sendspace.com/file/o8954k and if you care to download and play it and stop at 42:25 you can see that there are no bottom cap on all 3 LD rackets. And the grip colour is not red as on your pic, they are black and blue grips. And LD picked up the black one. And when I look more closely on the black grip racket, the edges are so thick that it looks like wooden not athlete tape covering. There is no bottom cap there at all.

    I believe your picture is not from the Sudirman cup final match, I mentioned that LD just changed his grip during Sudirman cup not JO 2010
    I have reviewed the video. Two observations I made:

    1. It is shot from an obscure angle. You don't see the bottom of the butt cap directly to be able to actually see the inside of the uncovered part as you claimed.

    2. The video is not of absolute high definition (only 793Kbps bit rate compared to my 7,347Kbps; which is almost 10 times less don't you think?) and you just can not definitely tell if the bottom part is covered with athlete tape or not. However if you compare the colour of the bottom part to the uncovered wooden upper part just below the cone, the colour hue is starkly different, so it is not raw wood as you claimed.

    With such inconclusive evidences on your part, my proof still holds true.

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    I dont have to see it from the 180 degree angle, what Im saying is that there is no tape there and that tick part at the bottom of the handle is wood, and therefore LD must have taken the cap off. You can also see that LD is no longer grip his racket at the lower part of the handle only, he now grip the racket at the middle of the handle only and on the other racket he grip it way up to the shaft. Thats the main changes that he made. I actually saw a clearer pic in yesterday when i watch it live, lets see if I can find it and show it to you.

    Your evidence or proof is nothing but already known fact, that WAS the way LD grip prior to this Sudirman cup, we all already know that. But what I saw on this Sudirman cup he already change that, for example the way he grip all they way up to the shaft. So if you think Im wrong you must at least show me that LD used the same grip style as he previously used.

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    OK how about if you paused at 47:45 to 47:46, I could not see a cap there, could you??
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