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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    Although personally, I feel that LCW has already proved himself to be one of the best players ever even without a WC
    Quote Originally Posted by diana_19 View Post
    i think lin dan always win in his country, like olimpic in beijing and asean games 2010 in china too..but taufik win olimpic in athena 2004..and asean games in doiha 2006,,taufik more great..it's just my opinion
    Very good point and observation there.

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    Someone yelled out:
    Pressure on LD to deliver?...LD does not have to win the WC MS title this yr to show CHN is still the top power house in baddy as they've got other events they can win (heck, LD lost in last yr's WC and CHN team still dominates)..
    Pressure on LYB and CHN team? they've had it since, what, year 2000 and they still dominate until now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by diana_19 View Post
    i think lin dan always win in his country, like olimpic in beijing and asean games 2010 in china too..but taufik win olimpic in athena 2004..and asean games in doiha 2006,,taufik more great..it's just my opinion
    You failed to mention Madrid 2006, KL 2007, Hyderabad 2009, plus multiple TC/SCs that weren't held in china,

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    When one is on top, maintaining that position is the hardest thing to do.

    Be it an individual or a team of a country.

    The pressure starts from the top guy who has make things happen.

    He will make sure that his players deliver by all means.

    A look at the China team, the current top baddy country performances and gaps between the next up and coming opponents.

    In men's doubles, with the rise of many young pairs from Korea, Japan, Malaysia and Indonesia, is it going to be easy for China's top pair?

    The same goes to men's singles and I think Lin dan's side wingers really worries Li yong bo

    Part of China's success of maintaining the lead all these years has been the players were able to take such pressure. Thumbs up !

    Will they be able to do so despite the current scenarios ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    When one is on top, maintaining that position is the hardest thing to do.

    Be it an individual or a team of a country.


    The pressure starts from the top guy who has make things happen.

    He will make sure that his players deliver by all means.

    A look at the China team, the current top baddy country performances and gaps between the next up and coming opponents.

    In men's doubles, with the rise of many young pairs from Korea, Japan, Malaysia and Indonesia, is it going to be easy for China's top pair?

    The same goes to men's singles and I think Lin dan's side wingers really worries Li yong bo

    Part of China's success of maintaining the lead all these years has been the players were able to take such pressure. Thumbs up !

    Will they be able to do so despite the current scenarios ?
    Your brain is certainly not functioning as properly as your pro-MA brown nosed mouth. Isn't a certain individual named L Chong Wei currently at the top of the men's singles ranking for a significantly long time now? So you're saying this certain person is not feeling any pressure compared to the whole of CHN team?

    You people are really the bringer of doom to your own aspirations. I sympathise Chong Wei, sincerely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzzards View Post
    Your brain is certainly not functioning as properly as your pro-MA brown nosed mouth. Isn't a certain individual named L Chong Wei currently at the top of the men's singles ranking for a significantly long time now? So you're saying this certain person is not feeling any pressure compared to the whole of CHN team? You people are really the bringer of doom to your own aspirations. I sympathise Chong Wei, sincerely.
    You have poor reading skill or you never learn manners in school?

    If you were not clear, why can't you just ask???

    Read again what i mentioned in the first two lines.

    Did I mentioned the world ms number one has no pressure to win big major tournaments?

    If you can't find it then you have TOTALLY missed the whole point of my post

    Team china gets the same pressure or could be even more when playing in such a big major

    and they have been handling them well (thumbs up!) that makes them the world best baddy country until today.
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    gentlemen? can you be gentlemen, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    You have poor reading skill or you never learn manners in school?

    If you were not clear, why can't you just ask???

    Read again what i mentioned in the first two lines.

    Did I mentioned the world ms number one has no pressure to win big major tournaments?

    If you can't find it then you have TOTALLY missed the whole point of my post

    Team china gets the same pressure or could be even more when playing in such a big major

    and they have been handling them well (thumbs up!) that makes them the world best baddy country until today.
    Nope, looks like I as a neutral just reminded you of your own stupid error that you even stated and saved you from harsher criticism from the pro-CHN fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    gentlemen? can you be gentlemen, please?
    I am trying, please tell the other fella

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamsyams View Post
    You failed to mention Madrid 2006, KL 2007, Hyderabad 2009, plus multiple TC/SCs that weren't held in china,
    also failed All england four times......


    LCW get 2 AE, LD get 4 AE
    LCW get 0 olympic, LD get 1 olympic
    LCW get 0 world championship, LD get 3 world championship
    LCW get 0 SC, LD get 4 SC
    LCW get 0 TC, LD get 4 SC
    LCW get 0 asian games induvidual, LD get 1 asian games induvidual


    head to head = 16 : 8 for lin dan


    so, who is better? LD? or LCW?
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    As much as LYB, LD and CHN team have the pressure of maintaining the top position, i'm very sure a lot of other countries would love to be in the same pressure spot that LYB, LD and CHN team currently hold...my suggestion to those other countries: keep working hard and perhaps, one day, you'll be in the same pressure spot position as LYB, LD and CHN team..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    As much as LYB, LD and CHN team have the pressure of maintaining the top position, i'm very sure a lot of other countries would love to be in the same pressure spot that LYB, LD and CHN team currently hold...my suggestion to those other countries: keep working hard and perhaps, one day, you'll be in the same pressure spot position as LYB, LD and CHN team..
    I am very sure that countries like China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Denmark and even Korea were at least for once dominated the badminton scene be it individual events like the Olympics or the world's team event like the Thomas cup. Its just that different era it was dominated by different country/countries (those 5 stated obviously).

    Can you please be specific on those countries that did not? In doing so you can narrow your scope and offer your "suggestion" to them specifically... provided they listen to you of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iqbaljuve View Post
    also failed All england four times......LCW get 2 AE, LD get 4 AELCW get 0 olympic, LD get 1 olympicLCW get 0 world championship, LD get 3 world championshipLCW get 0 SC, LD get 4 SCLCW get 0 TC, LD get 4 SCLCW get 0 asian games induvidual, LD get 1 asian games induvidualhead to head = 16 : 8 for lin danso, who is better? LD? or LCW?
    Probably this is the second time you are asking this question,why don't you drop by the other thread, who's gonna win the coming wc 2012?There is a poll there and it clearly tells you the answer from BCERS

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    Quote Originally Posted by flite View Post
    I am very sure that countries like China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Denmark and even Korea were at least for once dominated the badminton scene be it individual events like the Olympics or the world's team event like the Thomas cup. Its just that different era it was dominated by different country/countries (those 5 stated obviously).Can you please be specific on those countries that did not? In doing so you can narrow your scope and offer your "suggestion" to them specifically... provided they listen to you of course.
    As a matter of fact most of those countries you mentioned above,

    all has the pressure.

    The pressure to win one or two events,

    the pressure to maintain their position

    and the pressure to make a come back.

    If there is a pressure measuring meter,

    it will be interesting to see who tops the most pressure

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    Arrow For LD, the pressure starts later

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    Talking about just Mens Singles, and about LCW and LD (who feels the greater pressure?), IMHO it would be LCW.

    LCW has to win all rounds, otherwise that's the end for Malaysia. When LD plays, he knows that if his other teammates are still in the running, China can still win the title.

    However, when LD faces LCW at Finals Day, both of them must be feeling equal pressure.

    I would rather not be in LCW's shoes. The pressure on him starts from Day 1. Whereas for LD, the pressure only starts later; from the time after all his teammates have been eliminated.
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    Chris immediately gets right to the heart of the matter. Must be all the fresh fish you eat!

    But you can't really fault China or LD for this situation. They are doing what all other countries should be doing: creating enough good players who play top quality badminton.

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    Both have the pressure,

    Li yong bo is more terror than rashid

    I think with China military style added,

    it could be worst than the pressure cooker .

    BTW, China players can go independent?

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