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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    thanks for that, so what's that laziness all about?
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    Just informing BCers that over the last 12 months, LCW and PG have been more selective, as compared to LD.

    I don't think it has anything to do with laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
    .Actually, over the last 12 months, Lin Dan has participated in more tournaments (13 tournaments up to today, as I post), as compared to LCW's 11 and PG's 10.Source: http://bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14955 .
    If minus those walkovers they are more or less equal

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    I said "somewhat lazy" to refer to his new style of play, not working hard enough, not very committed, especially not in his usual (former) attacking mode, almost expecting to win on sheer respect and being dangerously stretched and hammered (under attack/counter-attack by his opponents), eg his last two matches with Peter Gade in the 1st set where he was leading yet was caught up and even lost the deuce, the other one is his match against Simon Santoso when Lin Dan was 20-15 up, yet lost it 22-20, not to mention his loss to Sho Sasaki in the SG Open. Contrast this with Lee C W's demolition job of almost all opposition by his guns-blazing sharp lightning smashes in high pace, without letting-up as if scoffing his opponents for not being able to withstand his onslaught - amazingly, that's how Lin Dan used to win the the past.

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    Arrow Talking about walkovers (CHN to CHN players)

    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    If minus those walkovers they are more or less equal
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    When talking about walkovers (CHN to CHN players), most BCers/spectatotors believe that match-fixing was involved.

    BWF have commented on this;

    http://bwfbadminton.org/news_item.aspx?id=52091

    BWF to protect interests of players and spectators with new measures

    Monday, August 15, 2011 - From Badminton World Federation

    As concerns have been raised about the legitimacy of certain withdrawals in recent tournaments, it warrants the Badminton World Federation (BWF) as the governing body of the sport to put in place firm measures that will serve to protect both our players and Member Associations from speculation in relation to withdrawals and matches between players from the same country.
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    Also if Lin Dan is more serious and hardworking, he should come up with some "secret weapons" reserved for Lee CW, seeing how much his archrival has improved over the years by seeing him win match after match, only losing to Lin Dan once in the beginning of the year in a hard-fought three setter and then decisively beating him in the All-England in March.

    More frightening is the way Lee trounced his opponents that ought to send a clear signal to Lin Dan, witnessed the world championship match where Lin Dan won by a whisker; that's why Lee CW confidently says he still has a chance to beat Lin and vowed to do so in London 2012 and the 2013 WCH, in effect announcing that he has change his mind about retiring after the Olympics. Let's admit it, Lee now is a different player and posed a real threat to Lin, much as I worship Lin Dan.

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    While we are always talking about Lin Dan and Lee CW, it's my personal opinion that Peter Gade himself is also an excellent attacking player and a good role model. If not for Lin and Lee, as well as Peter's age, he would have been number one. Imagine being in the circuit for about 15 years already, he is still consistently ranked in the top 5, outperforming Taufik Hidayat and other short-lived stars who come and go, such as Chen Hong.

    What longevity, total dedication, self-discipline, fighting spirit, self-motivation is Peter Gade - I should call him " Mr Evergreen": someone that Lin Dan is humble enough to say he looks up to and wish to emulate. Let's hope Lin Dan is not just paying lip service.

    You may have read that Peter himself considers Lin Dan The Greatest, adding that as long as Lin is around,the rest has no chance to outshine him. Taufik Hidayat, after losing to Lin Dan in the Asian Games last year in a one-sided match, in a similar vein said that the way Lin Dan played he should dominate the badminton world all the way to the 2012 London Olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    a few more

    2006 All England Semi Final - 15-9, 10-15, 17-14

    throw in the team events as well

    2009 Sudirman Cup Semi Final - 21-16, 21-16
    2010 Thomas Cup Semi Final - 21-17, 21-8.
    ..i meant only the Final Rd. of those majors..*i know those stats already, that's why i skipped/ignored them..
    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    I said "somewhat lazy" to refer to his new style of play, not working hard enough, not very committed, especially not in his usual (former) attacking mode, almost expecting to win on sheer respect and being dangerously stretched and hammered (under attack/counter-attack by his opponents), eg his last two matches with Peter Gade in the 1st set where he was leading yet was caught up and even lost the deuce, the other one is his match against Simon Santoso when Lin Dan was 20-15 up, yet lost it 22-20, not to mention his loss to Sho Sasaki in the SG Open. Contrast this with Lee C W's demolition job of almost all opposition by his guns-blazing sharp lightning smashes in high pace, without letting-up as if scoffing his opponents for not being able to withstand his onslaught - amazingly, that's how Lin Dan used to win the the past.
    ..it's pretty much well known to most of the BCers and baddy followers that LD is just pacing himself for next yr's OG (afterall, he's won literally every single majors, what else will he play for other than $$$?)..that's pretty much his goal, along with defending CHN's team titles..
    So, what you'll see from LD from post-2008 OG/2009/last yr & now on til next yr's OG will be pretty much the norm; certainly don't expect anything close to his 2008 OG or pre-2008 OG form..
    Last edited by ctjcad; 08-18-2011 at 01:07 PM.

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    Question Who will be the 3 top players in the world at the end of 2011?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    While we are always talking about Lin Dan and Lee CW, it's my personal opinion that Peter Gade himself is also an excellent attacking player and a good role model. If not for Lin and Lee, as well as Peter's age, he would have been number one. Imagine being in the circuit for about 15 years already, he is still consistently ranked in the top 5, outperforming Taufik Hidayat and other short-lived stars who come and go, such as Chen Hong.

    What longevity, total dedication, self-discipline, fighting spirit, self-motivation is Peter Gade - I should call him " Mr Evergreen": someone that Lin Dan is humble enough to say he looks up to and wish to emulate. Let's hope Lin Dan is not just paying lip service.

    You may have read that Peter himself considers Lin Dan The Greatest, adding that as long as Lin is around,the rest has no chance to outshine him. Taufik Hidayat, after losing to Lin Dan in the Asian Games last year in a one-sided match, in a similar vein said that the way Lin Dan played he should dominate the badminton world all the way to the 2012 London Olympics.
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    Undoubtedly LCW and LD are our current 2 best players in the world. As I type, PG is the No.3 (BWF Ranking). TH is still there, as No.5.

    Source: http://bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14955

    I wouldn't be surprised that at the end of this year (2011), the 3 top players in the world could be;

    No.1 LCW
    No.2 LD
    No.3 TH
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Undoubtedly LCW and LD are our current 2 best players in the world. As I type, PG is the No.3 (BWF Ranking). TH is still there, as No.5.

    Source: http://bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14955

    I wouldn't be surprised that at the end of this year (2011), the 3 top players in the world could be;

    No.1 LCW
    No.2 LD
    No.3 TH
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    I will bet 10 Satay that TH will not be #3 at the end of the year, too many sloppy results recently. I agree with the other two.

    (limsy this is your fault that I am betting with Satay)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    I will bet 10 Satay that TH will not be #3 at the end of the year, too many sloppy results recently. I agree with the other two.

    (limsy this is your fault that I am betting with Satay)
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    Don't think we need to bet, but to check for the last BWF World Ranking at the end of this year (2011).

    The end of the year is not that far away.

    So I think that TH could be placed No.3; Where do you think TH could be positioned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    I will bet 10 Satay that TH will not be #3 at the end of the year, too many sloppy results recently. I agree with the other two.

    (limsy this is your fault that I am betting with Satay)
    Is there Satay in Taiwan? I never seen it

    I agree with u, I highly doubt TH will rise to 3rd place.. my bet is another chinese player for the 3rd place.. Chen Jin maybe? seeing as he won a medal in WC2011..

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    It does not really matter if TH ranks 3rd or not, cos he wont win OG for sure. TH is history just like any other legends in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoppy View Post
    It does not really matter if TH ranks 3rd or not, cos he wont win OG for sure. TH is history just like any other legends in the past.
    Ouch!!
    15charrrrrrrrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    Ouch!!
    15charrrrrrrrrr
    Im deeply sorry to say that cobalt, I like him to win as much as you do. But I guess I must face reality, TH need lots and lots of spank!!

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    Question TH will rise to 3rd place?

    Quote Originally Posted by 57.Christ View Post
    Is there Satay in Taiwan? I never seen it

    I agree with u, I highly doubt TH will rise to 3rd place.. my bet is another chinese player for the 3rd place.. Chen Jin maybe? seeing as he won a medal in WC2011..
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    So you think that Chen Jin is playing better than TH this year (2011).

    At this 2011 WC, I was expecting a CJ-vs-TH match at the Quarter-Finals; but TH did not make it there, although CJ did.

    I am a firm believer of players' form based on the BWF Ranking. Currently (based on the ranking released on 18-Aug-2011), CJ is ranked No.6 (one below TH, at No.5). Chen Long is at No.4 (one above TH).

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...=1#post1741523

    Here is my guess - At the end of 2011, we could find the following at the BWF Ranking;

    1. LCW
    2. LD
    3. TH
    4. CL
    5. CJ

    Let's come back to check this guess at the end of this year.
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    for those of you interested in Lin Dan and can read Chinese, I recommend:

    http://bbs.badmintoncn.com/viewthrea...D6%B5%A4%B4%AB

    http://bbs.badmintoncn.com/viewthrea...D6%B5%A4%B4%AB

    it tracked Lin Dan's professional life from 2001 to 2011.

    before you ask, I'm NOT going to translate them.

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    I think Chen Long should be number 3 very soon. His shock defeat by Kevin Cordon will wake him up, should teach him a valuable unforgettable lesson, thereby helping him to mature and strengthen his resolve. Also his last match against Lee CW was closer than expected.

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