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    Quote Originally Posted by madbad View Post
    Nothing like Taufik's THL. Firstly, not for badminton, secondly, more for fashion. We should view the line first before condemning it.
    honestly lol at LD fashion.
    Doubt it is anything more than D&G and Yohji Yamamato's Y-3 inspired looks


    Gimme Comme Des Garcon anyday or Junya Watanabe eYe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isegrim View Post
    i think, me as a player at a more or less low level, could learn very much from his original footwork when he began as a professionell. more then from his footwork from today.
    i do not why but sometimes before a match i watch his quarterfinal of swiss open 2004 against sho seung mo and then i feel more comfortable on court
    i already said it is hard to describe but i have not so much fun to watch his today's matches...
    Yeah,agreed much.Try watch OG2008,he's much move with his beautiful footwork.But now,he didnt move much,Im getting bored to watch his match.He's now more to power play.

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    it was like dancing rite ??

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    That's a crazy match! SSM has definitely no way to really win any point from LD, who's way too fast for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isegrim View Post
    i think, me as a player at a more or less low level, could learn very much from his original footwork when he began as a professionell. more then from his footwork from today.
    i do not why but sometimes before a match i watch his quarterfinal of swiss open 2004 against sho seung mo and then i feel more comfortable on court
    i already said it is hard to describe but i have not so much fun to watch his today's matches...

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    Well, seems to me, before 2004, LD tried not to give his opponents any chance to attack him; Currently, LD usually gave ample chance to his opponents, and then (wickedly ) frustrate his opponents by counter-attacking. With his current perfect game-reading (together with the new rally point system), the second is a much more efficient way for him to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    agree with your 1st part of statement, LD's footwork is more like Ferrari (explosive, accelerate to full speed in shortest time) now than the BMW like (fluid and comfortable) in 2004.

    but for the 2nd part, I would say it's in sync with his transition from a good game-guessing to a more perfect game-reading player due to his upgraded ability...

    put it this way, now he have a Ferrari engine / reflection, he needs not to pedal too early, but to wait for his opponent's movement first, fully read his opponent's intention to the last minute possible, then react in a much shorter time than normally expected to reach the position very early and accurately, (and if necessary, impossibly earliest), for execution...

    in 2004, he didn't have such explosive Ferrari engine, so he had to anticipate (guess) the opponent's intention and act earliest possible (by using his well-trained fluid footwork) to allow enough time for himself to get into the best position for execution...

    so his footwork might not be as spectacular now, but much more efficient and lethal...

    remember Bruce Lee the martial art master?? very similar evolution in their respective field of specialty...

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    Such efficiency is a result of LD's great strength, superb body coordination, superman reflex. As Gillian Clark always marvelled, against most opponents, LD is literally walking on the court. But if you look at the area covered by such "walking", it's surprisingly large.

    It seems so far no one can mimick such efficient movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    ... if you look at LD's body movement during the matches nowadays, even with comparison with other players, you would find that LD has the least need to change his motion, minimum adjustment of body due to mis-judge, minimum over-stretch, over-step... such efficient and precise footwork in fact save him a lot of unnecessary energy consumption during the match...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Well, seems to me, before 2004, LD tried not to give his opponents any chance to attack him; Currently, LD usually gave ample chance to his opponents, and then (wickedly ) frustrate his opponents by counter-attacking. With his current perfect game-reading (together with the new rally point system), the second is a much more efficient way for him to win.
    Being too attacking is way too taxing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Well, seems to me, before 2004, LD tried not to give his opponents any chance to attack him; Currently, LD usually gave ample chance to his opponents, and then (wickedly ) frustrate his opponents by counter-attacking. With his current perfect game-reading (together with the new rally point system), the second is a much more efficient way for him to win.
    this is exactly the analogy I put forward to compare him with Bruce Lee:

    LD before 2004 = Bruce Lee with skillful "Wing Chun"

    LD now = Bruce Lee with "Jeet Kune Do" (and the "One Inch Punch")

    which one is more spectacular and which one is more lethal??

    not difficult to tell...

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    wow ... that's a unquie way of comparisom...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    this is exactly the analogy I put forward to compare him with Bruce Lee:

    LD before 2004 = Bruce Lee with skillful "Wing Chun"

    LD now = Bruce Lee with "Jeet Kune Do" (and the "One Inch Punch")

    which one is more spectacular and which one is more lethal??

    not difficult to tell...
    i think a 12 inch punch is more lethal and it has be around for the longest time

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    I wouldn't be so sure...

    Just watch LD vs Jorgensen final. There are a few times Jorgensen managed to "suddenly up the pace", and LD was immediately in trouble. LD in 2004 can do that kind of things in a much more "sudden" manner from the very start to the end of the 3rd game. Can today's LD deal with that? I am not so sure...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    this is exactly the analogy I put forward to compare him with Bruce Lee:

    LD before 2004 = Bruce Lee with skillful "Wing Chun"

    LD now = Bruce Lee with "Jeet Kune Do" (and the "One Inch Punch")

    which one is more spectacular and which one is more lethal??

    not difficult to tell...

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    When Lin dan up his pace, he is unstoppable, see the way he finish off Lee chong wei , and also peter gade..

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    How come Lin Dan is still number 2 in the rankings and almost 10,000 points below LCW after winning 5 titles (1 WC, 1 AE, and 3 other Super Series), one SS final, and one QF? I think something needs to be done with the ranking system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure...

    Just watch LD vs Jorgensen final. There are a few times Jorgensen managed to "suddenly up the pace", and LD was immediately in trouble. LD in 2004 can do that kind of things in a much more "sudden" manner from the very start to the end of the 3rd game. Can today's LD deal with that? I am not so sure...
    what silly obvious things to say.
    if a player up his pace, of course he'll do better
    what really matter is:
    1. how long can he sustain it?
    2. can he maintain quality of shots with the higher pace
    3. how quickly an opponent make counter measures.

    as for LD, answer is:
    1. longer than other players
    2. yes
    3. depend how generous he feel for his opponent on that day

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    It seems you totally missed my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    what silly obvious things to say.
    if a player up his pace, of course he'll do better
    what really matter is:
    1. how long can he sustain it?
    2. can he maintain quality of shots with the higher pace
    3. how quickly an opponent make counter measures.

    as for LD, answer is:
    1. longer than other players
    2. yes
    3. depend how generous he feel for his opponent on that day

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    Quote Originally Posted by flymordecai View Post
    How come Lin Dan is still number 2 in the rankings and almost 10,000 points below LCW after winning 5 titles (1 WC, 1 AE, and 3 other Super Series), one SS final, and one QF? I think something needs to be done with the ranking system.
    because lcw have 6 titles plus a few more runner up finish
    lindan is close to lcw in wr is because he won wc
    winner gets 12000

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    I was just watching my old videos. Honestly I think Mens Singles is pretty weak at the moment. That's got to be part of the reason Lin Dan is so dominant right now. Not that I don't think he's the best player ever , but sometimes I think people give him a little too much credit (calling him "god" and all that). Watching matches from a few years ago makes the majority of today's players bar the top few seem second rate :S. So it's not going to be too hard for a player like Lin Dan to utterly destroy most of them. I think the rest of the world really needs to step up...

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