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11-28-2009, 04:54 PM #324
11-28-2009, 06:04 PM #325
Having said that, LCW has also improved alot ever since his defeat in the Olympic game. LCW takes the shuttle alot earlier now and play less fancy shots. I dont know about what you think, but he seems to be playing at a much faster pace than he was back in 2008(alot more aggressive too). I think this is why alot of players struggled against LCW as they find it hard to cope with his speed and you certainly dont see that alot prior to 2008.
Not that the MS players are not improving, it's just that LD and LCW have improved so much that other players find it hard to keep up with them(especially TH, when he found out that his "old tricks" no longer work on these 2 players). The only player I found that is being able to keep up with them is probably PG(but age factor is an issue) and Chen Jin. BaoCL has been a little inconsistent lately, I think his confidence and form suffered a little after his knee injury incident.
Last edited by lcleing; 11-28-2009 at 06:09 PM.
11-28-2009, 07:42 PM #326
Anyway , i feel Lee chong wei is the only one in the world still got another 50 % chance of beating Lin dan , the rest no chance!
11-28-2009, 08:30 PM #327
11-28-2009, 08:45 PM #328
(Also, when the heck did I say lower ability??)
Last edited by phaarix; 11-28-2009 at 08:50 PM.
11-28-2009, 09:13 PM #329
However, u r making progress. A year before, u never believed LD was the best. Today, u have, only with some attached disclaimers.
Last edited by cooler; 11-28-2009 at 09:26 PM.
11-28-2009, 09:24 PM #330
So unfair to say today players is not as good as before such that they make LD look so good. Quite contraray. LD is so good he makes other look medicore although lcw,TH, PG, PSH, LHI, SDK, BP, CJ, BCL, CH are not medicore players. All these players are levels above previous generation pros.
11-28-2009, 10:21 PM #331
A year ago I never believed Lin Dan was the best? Huh? I'm pretty sure most of the time I was just saying I preferred Taufik's style (preferred). I found him more entertaining to watch (and for some reason a lot of people seemed to think it was an attack on Lin Dan's superiority >_>). Which often led to me having to defend my right to an opinion *sigh*. Even that was more than a year ago I'm preeettty sure... You sure like to misinterpret things.
It's funny how you just mention one little thing that may contribute to Lin Dan's dominance, and ALL the most biased fans immediately rush to his defence. As if he has to be perfect and it absolutely HAS to be all him.
Last edited by phaarix; 11-28-2009 at 10:25 PM.
11-28-2009, 10:44 PM #332
11-28-2009, 10:53 PM #333
yup, this is dedicated to him ( i mean his tread )
11-29-2009, 01:22 AM #334
11-29-2009, 01:52 PM #335
11-29-2009, 09:17 PM #336
11-30-2009, 12:18 PM #337
You claimed that the average hasn't dropped yet you provide no evidence to back that up...
LCW improved a lot? Then how come his performance against Sony, Simon, PG doesn't show any significant change? Or maybe PG, at age 33, also has significantly improved?
You don't see players struggle against LCW prior to 2008? Huh? Did you watch 2007 French Open where LCW demolished CJ and BCL? Has LCW been able to do that in 2008 or 09? No. Or 2007 Sudirman and Japan Open where LCW frustrated LD? Or 2006 Thomas cup where LCW totally out-paced LHI? (In comparison, in both 2008 Malaysia Open and 2008 OG, a well-in-form LCW needs 3 games to beat LHI, who's already 28 years old).
Watch 2003 Japan Open LD vs XXZ and check the quality of LD's netshots then. Or check any LD vs LHI (a top net player) game since 2004 and see whether LD was afraid of LHI at the net. Ever since 2002, as long as LD can out-pace his opponent, net play is never a problem for him.
11-30-2009, 12:59 PM #338
11-30-2009, 02:24 PM #339
Unfortunately I am not happy...
If you don't want to support your claims with evidences, then why bother posting the claims? What use can your claim be to others? In fact, you bothered to provide supporting material for your other claim "LD has improved a lot".
As far as I am concerned, I post here to discuss with other people, and thus increasing my understanding of badminton. Therefore I always try to provide ample support for my claims. The benefit of doing this is, when other people disagree, I can know whether
1. they disagree with my facts -- in that case, I watch relevant videos again (if I have time of course LOL) to see is there anything I have missed.
2. they disagree with my interpretation of facts. In this case, I will make a note since maybe when I have better understanding of badminton, I will find that their interpretation is more correct. (I do this even for Mr.cooler's "LD is generous" interpretation of his losses! )
3. they disagree with my logic. In this case, I try to see whether their logic is flawed. Because as a working mathematician, I have confidence in my logic.
4. they are simply unhappy with my conclusion or with the fact that they cannot do 1-3. In this case, I try to ignore their comments.
I guess you didn't truly understand what I try to say using the China Open final.
Last edited by ye333; 11-30-2009 at 02:27 PM.
01-26-2010, 12:51 AM #340
Lin Dan: Why I’m still out of action
BEIJING: Recent impressive performances by Lee Chong Wei have raised the alarm on Chinese badminton star Lin Dan.
The world No. 2, who withdrew from the Malaysian Open, said that his arch rival showed great promises in the Korean Open, winning the title without dropping a game in five matches last week.
“Although I did not go to Seoul, I followed the tournament closely. Chong Wei is now really in great form. He is a very well-rounded and world-class player,” Lin Dan told sports.cn from his training base here on Tuesday.
On why he withdrew from the Malaysian Open, Lin Dan said that he wanted to train harder and regain tip-top form before going to Kuala Lumpur to compete in the tournament.
“But I have not adjusted to the best of condition. If I go for competitions in a hurry, I will not only be unable to play to my best ability but I will also risk getting injured,” he said.
He added that it was inevitable that other Chinese singles players, Chen Jin and Bao Chunlai, could not play to their true ability in the Korean Open as they had not been training systematically thus far.
Lin Dan said that he would start his season with the defence of the All-England title in Birmingham in March.
By kwun in forum China Professional PlayersReplies: 1832: 08-15-2013, 01:06 AM