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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko View Post
    I watched Lin dan recent games , his weakness of the game is now exposed by Taufik

    Watched this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z2MEpPd4tc
    hahahahahaha, that is not a game, that is just ONE round of rally.
    LD was just playing along. LD knows TH's effective weapon is net and smash. LD is confident enough to let TH play style in this rally. Of course LD isn't dumb, at the same time, he is tiring out that boy. lol

    Athelete1234, u beat me to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko View Post
    I watched Lin dan recent games , his weakness of the game is now exposed by Taufik

    Watched this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z2MEpPd4tc
    if you get a scientist or analyst and calculate how much calories ld and th burned during this rally and you just multiply 21 then 3 (assuming it went rubber game) and you come back with the results whether you are exposing ld's weakness or th's!!

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    I am falling to see where the weakness is, he won that match 21-6 21-18 (French SS 2009)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    I am falling to see where the weakness is, he won that match 21-6 21-18 (French SS 2009)
    naturally because you didn't read/understand the post, sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    I am falling to see where the weakness is, he won that match 21-6 21-18 (French SS 2009)
    weakness what weakness ! Lin Dan is the undisputed king of badminton. To be honest TH never had a chance against LD, from what I can see LD was not playing well in that match (maybe fatigue) but still come out as the winner ! My word , LD did not even try hard in that match !

    TH ummm, the closest rival to LD would be LCW and thats not even close ! maybe 2 LCW vs LD would be a fairer match.lol !

    LD rules , are you coming to the Yonex All England final next month (my tickets are right behind the management block , might have a chance to meet LD himself) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by staiger View Post
    weakness what weakness ! Lin Dan is the undisputed king of badminton. To be honest TH never had a chance against LD, from what I can see LD was not playing well in that match (maybe fatigue) but still come out as the winner ! My word , LD did not even try hard in that match !

    TH ummm, the closest rival to LD would be LCW and thats not even close ! maybe 2 LCW vs LD would be a fairer match.lol !

    LD rules , are you coming to the Yonex All England final next month (my tickets are right behind the management block , might have a chance to meet LD himself) ?
    which LD do you want to meet ? The UK version (me) or the real thing the one form China olympic and world champion.
    Ehh will I be coming to the AE next month ? Not sure yet. Are there still tickets left ? If there is then I will probaly go, but not 100% sure yet

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    some people just read the latest post and start to post a reply....

    most of the time the latest post are related to previous post(s)...

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    I guess this is the best thread to pose the question -

    What EXACTLY does LD put on his racket? Obviously it's not "white paint" (hahahha), but is it specifically lead tape designed to add weight? If so, how much do you speculate it actually adds (in g)?

    And, does anybody have HQ pictures of his current racket grip? I think it's crazy, he's no longer holding it from the very bottom, but somewhere in the lower 2/3 of the racket. Again, a similar white tape to cover the wood, and then towel grip from the bottom-middle to the middle-top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by exalted View Post
    I guess this is the best thread to pose the question -

    What EXACTLY does LD put on his racket? Obviously it's not "white paint" (hahahha), but is it specifically lead tape designed to add weight? If so, how much do you speculate it actually adds (in g)?

    And, does anybody have HQ pictures of his current racket grip? I think it's crazy, he's no longer holding it from the very bottom, but somewhere in the lower 2/3 of the racket. Again, a similar white tape to cover the wood, and then towel grip from the bottom-middle to the middle-top?
    obviously the new brand li ning gave him an unbalanced racket thus you can see the white lead tape, top and bottom..

    as for the weight, it depends on who ld meets, probably lcw he put on at least 500g..in case he is hungry..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    which LD do you want to meet ? The UK version (me) or the real thing the one form China olympic and world champion.
    Ehh will I be coming to the AE next month ? Not sure yet. Are there still tickets left ? If there is then I will probaly go, but not 100% sure yet
    Both, lol ! you are the right-handed version....(would love to see both of you playing on the same court it would be a mirror-image) yes still tickets left ..got to 'ticket factory ' to get the last few...it is going to be a sell-out

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    Quote Originally Posted by exalted View Post
    I guess this is the best thread to pose the question -

    What EXACTLY does LD put on his racket? Obviously it's not "white paint" (hahahha), but is it specifically lead tape designed to add weight? If so, how much do you speculate it actually adds (in g)?

    And, does anybody have HQ pictures of his current racket grip? I think it's crazy, he's no longer holding it from the very bottom, but somewhere in the lower 2/3 of the racket. Again, a similar white tape to cover the wood, and then towel grip from the bottom-middle to the middle-top?
    IMHO I can tell what it is from my experience. It is probably either the normal fabric athele's tape or zinc oxide tape (most likely the earlier since zinc oxide tape has much more density although it has better water proofing properties). He put it at the top of the frame to make his racquets more head heavy not just by static weight but really also adding more weight specifically to the head. Notice that compared to his older modification on his AT700, he has less tape on the N90 which tells us that the N90 is slightly more head heavy than the AT700 thus him needing less tape and weight there.

    As for the part on the handle, I believe he did that to redirect sweat that drips down from his forearm onto the racquet handle. Notice that how he no longer uses the towel grip bulge (a towel grip wrapping technique) at the very end of the handle (which collects sweat dripping from the forearm and keep them from collecting onto the centre of the palm) and has opted to use less towel grip wrapping to keep the handle end lighter [and thus making the racquet feel even more head heavy]. The tape on that end hence protects the wooden handle from absorbing the sweat and will just let it stay on the tape and drip away during his swings or until he wipes them off during time outs. By the way if you experience it yourself, with the towel grip bulge at the end you will also tend to hold the racquet handle at 2/3 bottom anyway since the bulge is in the way. It just looks more obvious since the white tape "replacement" at the bottom is much thinner and "colourful".

    To be VERY honest, those who tell you that the white tape is high density lead tape are only simply being plain scientifically ignorant (do you even think the racquet can handle such uneven physical stress?) or are deliberately tyring to confuse you, since they also don't know the facts themselves
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    Zinc oxide tapes doesnt weight that much, maybe adding 2-3g when rolled up (15cm) and attached which is enough to alter the balance ...I know lead tape are used in tennis , but not so sure they are used in badminton

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    Quote Originally Posted by staiger View Post
    Both, lol ! you are the right-handed version...
    ..i thought LD Rules! is a southpaw?? (from his video)..or was it mirrored?

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    Quote Originally Posted by staiger View Post
    Zinc oxide tapes doesnt weight that much, maybe adding 2-3g when rolled up (15cm) and attached which is enough to alter the balance ...I know lead tape are used in tennis , but not so sure they are used in badminton
    yeap! not possible for lead and i was putting a little humor beside the lead tape!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzzards View Post
    IMHO I can tell what it is from my experience. It is probably either the normal fabric athele's tape or zinc oxide tape (most likely the earlier since zinc oxide tape has much more density although it has better water proofing properties). He put it at the top of the frame to make his racquets more head heavy not just by static weight but really also adding more weight specifically to the head. Notice that compared to his older modification on his AT700, he has less tape on the N90 which tells us that the N90 is slightly more head heavy than the AT700 thus him needing less tape and weight there.

    As for the part on the handle, I believe he did that to redirect sweat that drips down from his forearm onto the racquet handle. Notice that how he no longer uses the towel grip bulge (a towel grip wrapping technique) at the very end of the handle (which collects sweat dripping from the forearm and keep them from collecting onto the centre of the palm) and has opted to use less towel grip wrapping to keep the handle end lighter [and thus making the racquet feel even more head heavy]. The tape on that end hence protects the wooden handle from absorbing the sweat and will just let it stay on the tape and drip away during his swings or until he wipes them off during time outs. By the way if you experience it yourself, with the towel grip bulge at the end you will also tend to hold the racquet handle at 2/3 bottom anyway since the bulge is in the way. It just looks more obvious since the white tape "replacement" at the bottom is much thinner and "colourful".

    To be VERY honest, those who tell you that the white tape is high density lead tape are only simply being plain scientifically ignorant (do you even think the racquet can handle such uneven physical stress?) or are deliberately tyring to confuse you, since they also don't know the facts themselves
    a little humor with lead tape but if you have no choice it can be done, just use your imagination..

    Quote Originally Posted by exalted View Post
    I guess this is the best thread to pose the question -

    What EXACTLY does LD put on his racket? Obviously it's not "white paint" (hahahha), but is it specifically lead tape designed to add weight? If so, how much do you speculate it actually adds (in g)?

    And, does anybody have HQ pictures of his current racket grip? I think it's crazy, he's no longer holding it from the very bottom, but somewhere in the lower 2/3 of the racket. Again, a similar white tape to cover the wood, and then towel grip from the bottom-middle to the middle-top?
    i was pulling your leg! do you really need it? a head heavier racket? you have to get use to it and it may be suitable to ld but not to everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by staiger View Post
    Both, lol ! you are the right-handed version....(would love to see both of you playing on the same court it would be a mirror-image) yes still tickets left ..got to 'ticket factory ' to get the last few...it is going to be a sell-out
    Lol staiger, i am LEFT handed. Just like LD, ctjcad you are correct.

    I will see if i can get tickets and if i am able to go

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    Spot on! TH knows LD's "weakness" since 2005. If you watch his matches against LD around that time, indeed he smashed from the very beginning till the end (remember it's still the old system!), almost never cleared to LD -- that's why LD got frustrated when playing TH back then. Of course, back then TH was much faster and thus can vary the pace better, thus most rallies will end in just 3 or 4 smashes.

    Nowadays TH does not have the required stamina and explosiveness anymore, LD has more time to prepare for each shot and consequently Th's smashes are not as lethal as before. LD knows that and LCW knows that. So they just let TH smash, most of the times they don't even bother to do their best to return those smashes. The idea is to exhaust TH. They may lose one or two points this way, but after these 1 or 2 points TH needs 5 or 6 points to recover. So LD/LCW may lose 1 or 2 points, but in return gain 5 or 6. Just watch any LD - TH game after 2006, after one or two long rallies (doesn't matter who won), LD always gets tons of easy points.

    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    if you get a scientist or analyst and calculate how much calories ld and th burned during this rally and you just multiply 21 then 3 (assuming it went rubber game) and you come back with the results whether you are exposing ld's weakness or th's!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Spot on! TH knows LD's "weakness" since 2005. If you watch his matches against LD around that time, indeed he smashed from the very beginning till the end (remember it's still the old system!), almost never cleared to LD -- that's why LD got frustrated when playing TH back then. Of course, back then TH was much faster and thus can vary the pace better, thus most rallies will end in just 3 or 4 smashes.

    Nowadays TH does not have the required stamina and explosiveness anymore, LD has more time to prepare for each shot and consequently Th's smashes are not as lethal as before. LD knows that and LCW knows that. So they just let TH smash, most of the times they don't even bother to do their best to return those smashes. The idea is to exhaust TH. They may lose one or two points this way, but after these 1 or 2 points TH needs 5 or 6 points to recover. So LD/LCW may lose 1 or 2 points, but in return gain 5 or 6. Just watch any LD - TH game after 2006, after one or two long rallies (doesn't matter who won), LD always gets tons of easy points.
    first, why does a naturally talented magician like TH resort to 'smash fest' on LD to win points?. To me playing singles demand more skills in shuttle placement, footwork efficiency, shot consistency, finesse, deception, patience, etc. R u saying playing a doubles strategy of smash smash smash work best against LD? It's shame to see a magican has to resort to brainless smashing to beat his opponent.

    second, after 2006, why didn't the magican TH change his magic potion on LD?

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