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11-02-2009, 10:29 AM #86
at the moment he's the most complete player in my opinion
11-02-2009, 10:39 AM #87
11-02-2009, 11:08 AM #88
oldies like PG, TH and near veteran lvl like BCL, PSH, BP etc still levels above the newer players.
Unlike when LD, BCL, burst onto the scene and later LCW.
They had very strong competition but were still able to upset and win tourneys which the latest batch of players have not been up to scratch.
11-02-2009, 12:19 PM #89
Of course players become more complete as they mature. What I am trying to say is that, the current dominance of LD can be attained without great improvement on techniques/power.
Basically, a 2004 LD with today's experience, and with today's luxury of choosing tournaments to attend, will be able to dominate today's MS. First, with more experience, he will not lose to lesser players like Ronald Susilo. On the other hand, the number of top competitors are much less than before. Let's check his record with LCW. LD's head to head to LCW is 13:6. As two of the 6 losses are in Malaysia, and LD is not attending MAS open since 08, what we have is a 13:4 H2H. That's 3:1. What is LD vs LCW's H2H in 2008-09 (many ppl claim LD in 2008-09 is much stronger than before)? 5:2. So, if LD has improved a lot, so has LCW. If LCW has improved a lot, so has Sony. ... Everyone has improved a lot.
Summarizing, LD is not losing to lesser players today (can be explained by experience and maturity); LD is keeping the ~3:1 H2H ratio against LCW, the only top contender today. You see, dominance is inevitable even if LD hasn't evolved from human to superhuman.
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11-02-2009, 11:13 PM #90
My dad, grandfather and uncle used to tell me stories of the great Rudy Hartono, Liem Swie King, The Thing etc etc. They say these were great legends of the game and I was always envious of them for being able to watched such great legends in action during their playing days.
But now with LD, I must say I am glad too that I get to witness a living legend.
LD, the true MS WR#1.
Will the current poser please stand aside and hail the true WR#1.
11-03-2009, 02:21 AM #91
Today's LD is better and faster in every aspect of the game, physical, mental and strategic. You undermine LD's improvement if you do not see the new expanse in his game. LD's game did not just "mature", it evolved into a multi-facet game. He played a vastly different game in AE2009 than OG2008. Netplays and long rallies are no longer LD's achilles heel -- he became really good at them.
11-03-2009, 02:46 AM #92
I must agree that Lin Dan has indeed improved alot. I saw the WC2005 match between LD and Taufik and comparing it with the present day LD, there's indeed a dramatic difference.
Both his attack and defence is so much stronger now than before.
11-03-2009, 02:51 AM #93
11-03-2009, 03:42 PM #94
It is amazing when you watch both the match between PG vs TH and LD vs TH of the France SS 09 back to back. PG was troubling with TH's smashes while LD just handled casually.
11-03-2009, 05:26 PM #95
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11-03-2009, 05:36 PM #96
^^Enjoy it lah..^^
..while he still has what it takes..
11-03-2009, 06:22 PM #97
I dont think we are running out of talent (there are a few upcoming) , it is just LCW and LD play in their league of their own at the moment in time and there is much catching up for the youngsters to do before they can pose a threat to the kings of badminton
11-03-2009, 11:39 PM #98
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11-04-2009, 12:10 AM #100
11-04-2009, 04:55 AM #101
PG is older than TH??
11-04-2009, 05:09 AM #102
yup Gade is around 33 .. Hidayat is still in his late 20's ...
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