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Thread: Lin Dan ( 林丹 )
08-31-2010, 04:31 AM #1174
i think how you look at things and how i look at things are miles apart.
about your finding on bao cl - if you expect something from him because he trains more,
what about the rest like peter gade? he also had a long training for wc and nothing happens.
if we continue or rather you continue giving this kind of questions/post i say we are going to have a very10x long one.
it is irrelevant to mention that and its totally beside my point here.
if you want to follow my post #1168, here is what i was asking:
"is it lin dan needs special treatment?"
08-31-2010, 04:39 AM #1175
Why would LD need any special treatment??..He could train & get "special treatment" or skip the CBSL and he still could lose.
I still don't understand why some can't see the overall plan (at least to the theory i'm bringing up from 2 pages back)..If they want CJ to win, it aint' matter if LD gets a "special treatment" or not..
08-31-2010, 04:44 AM #1176
I think I'm starting to understand what you are thinking, ctjcad. LYB wants CJ to win it this time. However, LCW has a good record against CJ so he wants to wipe off LCW. So what more better than to use LD to kick LCW out? However, LCW lost his quarter-final, so LD no longer 'serves a purpose' and therefore lost. Well, there is still no guarantee that CJ will win though. I don't buy it because I don't see how confident they are in CJ winning. Sure, he won it in the end but can one say that it is 100% chance for CJ to win? Or LYB likes to take risks?
08-31-2010, 04:45 AM #1177
then all you were trying to do in your last 2 pages were to convince members
cba wants chen jin up up and away to win wc
which eventually he did?
and forget lin dan?
08-31-2010, 04:54 AM #1178
08-31-2010, 04:54 AM #1179
- Yes, LD is there just to protect CJ, in case LCW advances. Remember, LCW played his QF match before LD. If LCW had won, i surmise LD would go all out and win his match vs. PSH.
- Yes, as i've mentioned, the bigger gamble was the CJ vs. Gade and also the Taufik vs. PSH match. They gambled CJ would beat Gade and Taufik would beat PSH, in the Semis. If PSH had beaten Taufik, then their plan could turn upside down as PSH has a better H2H record vs. CJ. But if their plan goes as planned, most likely CJ will go all the way and win because he has a better record vs. TH.
- Yes, that's the theory i have. Anyone can believe it or not..no one is forcing..
There's also another possible theory as to why LD hasn't won a single individual tourney this yr (other than the BAC). This one i don't really subscribe, yet. And that is, LD wants to stay low and appear as if he's faded. Only to return with a bang come the AG. So, basically, he's saving it up til then..as he has promised earlier in the year that his goal was the AG..we'll see..
Last edited by ctjcad; 08-31-2010 at 05:03 AM.
08-31-2010, 05:00 AM #1180
Recently before TC(forgot which tourney), Bao2 beat LD, then lost the next stage. In the end, China did not win the MS for that tourney. Bao2 had a long lecture from LYB after his lost.
I dont think members dont understand ctjcad's theory but we dont buy it.
08-31-2010, 05:00 AM #1181
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08-31-2010, 05:29 AM #1186
..please check the tournamentsoftware.com website and do some research before making further comments:
If LCW wins vs. TH, then LD is going to try to win his match vs. PSH so he'll face LCW in the Semis. That is how LYB/LD are going to protect CJ, in case both meet in the Final, because LCW has a better H2H record vs. CJ (with LCW winning the last 3 matches). Of course, if LD meets LCW in the Semis, most likely LD has the superior advantage and most likely win. And if LD wins, and CJ wins, of course, there's going to be a CHN vs. CHN match to decide it all. And if CJ wins it all, then we all know what will be buzzing in a forum like BC..
If LD had played before LCW in the QF Rd., then my guess is LD will go all out and win his match vs. PSH just so he can secure a Semifinal spot and in case LCW wins his match vs. Taufik. It's all in the Draw. But LCW played first and LD/LYB had the advantage on whether to go all out or let go.
All in all, the overall plan for this yr is for LD not to win the WC. Not top priority. Another member posted in another thread, mentioning that perhaps LYB was "hyping up" the "LD will win this yr's WC" talks in order to take some pressure off from the Women's team.
Last edited by ctjcad; 08-31-2010 at 05:44 AM.
08-31-2010, 05:41 AM #1187
08-31-2010, 05:49 AM #1188
off topic, abt LCW vs. Taufik:
IMO, LCW vs. Taufik was going in favor of LCW. Until, well, the unexpected back injury occurred. I'm not suggesting that is the reason LCW lost, but i'd say it probably played a part. I was nearly dumbfounded seeing LCW fell apart in the 2nd half of the 3rd game with so many errors as if he forgot how to play or got scared of playing Taufik.
So, in a way, my opinion is yes, it's probably one of those rare opportunities for TH to beat LCW.
Last edited by ctjcad; 08-31-2010 at 05:51 AM.
08-31-2010, 05:55 AM #1189
however, this plan does not guarantee chen jin a gold medal
if this comes from lee yong bo's mouth i have nothing to say.
but it is not, its just your opinion, ctjcad and a good one though.
i say, no hard feelings, ctjcad above is your opinion,
could your plan be a cover up for lin dan's loss in wc 2010?
08-31-2010, 06:08 AM #1190
You choose what to believe in. I don't buy it, but ctjcad believes in that theory. We are all free to decide, I don't think ctjcad has to reply to that. Well, case closed.
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