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    What's happening here ! Can we all just chill rather than insulting each other , I don't give a damn where you from and how smart you are !
    Lets get back to LD , I dont love the guy but I admire his talent ...

    Does anyone know which tournament is he playing next ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    This, is where the problem is.
    Idiots taking cheapshots at the best, is where the problem lies. While guys are quick to defend failures, they always wait for the opportunity to take their rage of lyb and ld at any chance possible by 'smart' analysis.

    Don't hate the player, Hate the GAME, to let one player totally dominate one aspect of it, that it's too boring for the teary spectators.
    Cos the domination is too evident, the jealousy is even more.

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    Personally I find LD's game a joy to watch. I have almost all of his games available on the internet. What I don't like is the attitude of many of his fans. Who with a rational mind can bear nonsensical stuff like "LD lost because he is generous", "LD just wanted to give LCW/TH/PG... some face", "If LD wanted to....", ... day after day?

    LD fans took the art of "finding excuses for players" to a whole new level.

    The dominance is "evident" to LD fans just because they brush away all of LD's losses by saying LD didn't want to win.

    Quote Originally Posted by volcom View Post
    Idiots taking cheapshots at the best, is where the problem lies. While guys are quick to defend failures, they always wait for the opportunity to take their rage of lyb and ld at any chance possible by 'smart' analysis.

    Don't hate the player, Hate the GAME, to let one player totally dominate one aspect of it, that it's too boring for the teary spectators.
    Cos the domination is too evident, the jealousy is even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Personally I find LD's game a joy to watch. I have almost all of his games available on the internet. What I don't like is the attitude of many of his fans. Who with a rational mind can bear nonsensical stuff like "LD lost because he is generous", "LD just wanted to give LCW/TH/PG... some face", "If LD wanted to....", ... day after day?

    LD fans took the art of "finding excuses for players" to a whole new level.

    The dominance is "evident" to LD fans just because they brush away all of LD's losses by saying LD didn't want to win.
    Sounds like LD only has 2 fans in the universe, namely cooler and bananakid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Personally I find LD's game a joy to watch. I have almost all of his games available on the internet. What I don't like is the attitude of many of his fans. Who with a rational mind can bear nonsensical stuff like "LD lost because he is generous", "LD just wanted to give LCW/TH/PG... some face", "If LD wanted to....", ... day after day?

    LD fans took the art of "finding excuses for players" to a whole new level.

    The dominance is "evident" to LD fans just because they brush away all of LD's losses by saying LD didn't want to win.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wong8Egg View Post
    Sounds like LD only has 2 fans in the universe, namely cooler and bananakid.

    I don't recall myself ever posted anything similar to "Lin Dan lost because he is generous". I am a fan of Lin Dan, and a supporter of Cooler for his courage of being the sole fighter against the evil bolehian society(aka. bc forum). just kidding.

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    I myself also a fan of Lin dan , of course, we do feel sad whenever he lost to LEE CHONG WEI !

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    Come on , you all got to admit talent-wise; Lin Dan > Lee Chong wei . Just look at the head 2 head records. Not to mention what happened in the Olympic .

    LCW is a nice guy and I dont want to say anything negative about him but LD is just in a class of his own.

    p.s. I am a fan of both LD and LCW

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    Quote Originally Posted by staiger View Post
    Come on , you all got to admit talent-wise; Lin Dan > Lee Chong wei . Just look at the head 2 head records. Not to mention what happened in the Olympic .

    LCW is a nice guy and I dont want to say anything negative about him but LD is just in a class of his own.

    p.s. I am a fan of both LD and LCW
    Hmm dunno about that, Lin Dan just gets into position quicker, if you can give yourself more time to take the shot, I'm sure there'd be more players who'd produce those sort of shots. Also taking into account footwork, go take a good luck at the two playing and see for yourself ^^.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedTheFarmer View Post
    Hmm dunno about that, Lin Dan just gets into position quicker, if you can give yourself more time to take the shot, I'm sure there'd be more players who'd produce those sort of shots. Also taking into account footwork, go take a good luck at the two playing and see for yourself ^^.
    If he is not more talented, how can he get into position quicker?
    Seriously he was just built unlike others to play at such insanely paced level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedTheFarmer View Post
    Hmm dunno about that, Lin Dan just gets into position quicker,...
    Incidentally getting into position quick enough seems to be the problem that most players face. LD just gets/makes a lot more time to make his shots. Bah... I think he also happen to have excellent footwork and court speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedTheFarmer View Post
    Hmm dunno about that, Lin Dan just gets into position quicker, if you can give yourself more time to take the shot, I'm sure there'd be more players who'd produce those sort of shots. Also taking into account footwork, go take a good luck at the two playing and see for yourself ^^.
    Lol, you are contradicting yourself with such a statement. I think it should be you that needed to watch them play closely and see for yourself. I have no idea who you been watching and thought it was Lin Dan

    ummmmmm...who had better footwork around the court and can get into position quicker and able to play an attacking shot -------> Lin Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie View Post

    Your fellow country fellows I am alluding to were among the first batch to be sent to Canada prior to the Tiananmen incident, and the incident opened up an immigration opportunity for them...honestly, knowing them personally myself, they don't speak or write that well compared to you here....but I have no doubt of how smart and competitive they are, just to be selected among the very few on CHN scholarships to be sent abroad.
    I don't know you and I am not saying you are smart or not, that is not what the 'but' is for. My wife speaks fluent mandarin (I am glad for that when we tour CHN next year) just being her roommate for 3 years....even my broken laughable spoken mandarin improves a bit too but I learn to understand mandarin very well.
    Like I say, CHN's lost is Canada's gain. A country can get a lot of labourers, maids, even engineers, etc to migrate but you don't produce a genetic scientist everyday.
    I see, thanks for the clarification. Brain drain is a serious issue in Asia, especially in my country, but that's because of the working condition and the market are not as good as what the western countries are offering. Job opportunities are very limited for high caliber professionals and you will need to rely on networking and good relationship with certain parties in order to get anything decent in China. This is also why most of the bright students without a strong backing didn't even try to get a job back home. Hopefully, things will get better when I graduate. Before turning this into a political post, I better stop for now.

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    Cheers and welcome to BC.
    Thank you.

    Dear friend, I am sure you have not read enough of this forum.

    If you think the LD being the best thread is too much for you then you probably have not seen the famous LCW/KKK/TBH going uphill/downhill, will LCW remain #1, WMC/LCW breakup and BAM is not happy threads.

    Those are only the tip of the iceberg you would find in the professional players forum, you would shoot yourself if you dare to visit the tournament forum...
    I have been here for quite sometime although my account shows otherwise.
    Don't get me wrong, cheering for your favorite players is not a sin, but complimenting your favorite players on the expense of disrespecting other professional players is utmost disguising. I have read almost all the posts in the threads you mentioned and I do agree that certain non-LD fans could be annoying sometimes. However, they are not as irritating as some of the LD fans here. The most recent case which really got on my nerves happened in the 11th China National Games-badminton Oct 11,2009 threads, where a fan girl made a remark which I find it hard to swallow.

    Chen Jin, being one of my acquaintances and my favourite player, was not being given the merit he should receive in that thread(by LD's fan of course, who else would have done that? ). But guess what, that's not the end of the story. According to that fan girl, the whole reason CJ was able to steal a set from LD in his semifinal games was all due to LD being generous enough to let him win. That's right, it was a charity work from LD not because of CJ's hard work. Having know CJ, I know how hard that guy have work in order to get to the position he is in. And all his sweat and hard work has been ridiculed by this very fan girl, who spoke(or typed...whatever) in a tone that doesn't even consider CJ as a worthy opponent to LD. From what she said, she gave me the impression that she was intending to strip the final honour of CJ for being able to compete with LD in the semifinals stage and was suggesting that whatever this gentleman(CJ) have achieved was all given by LD.

    And boy I was so pissed when I read it but I was calm enough not to make a scene of this(I am glad this happened on the internet, not sure what would I have done to her if I see heard this from her in person) until I read another ridiculous post by another LD's fan... which prompt me to click on LD's thread for the first time.

    Note this is not the first time I read a remark like this from a LD's fan and it certainly is not the last.
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    if Chen J didn't work hard enough would he be able to win titles ? no way jose .. some fans is just a bit nuts in my opinion .. Lin D is a great player no doubt but stiill he's just normal human being like us .. onceawhile he'll suffer defeat

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    It seems I wasn't really being clear, talent for moving quicker is different than talent for being able to "play the game" so much better than everyone else. If you're referring to movement speed as being more talented at badminton then you'd expect more sprinters to be playing the game would you not? What I was referring to when I was talking about footwork was the fluidity of Lee Chong Wei's movements, now sure Lin Dan has exceptional footwork to but personally I consider LCW's as being better. So if you're looking at it like that then yes I say Lee Chong Wei is the more talented of the two. The reason I pick up on footwork is because it's just so hard to judge talent on shots without knowing fully what it takes, you would really need to have been in the top to judge the top on something as complicated, whereas footwork is easier to judge because it is the basics of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majyun View Post
    I see, thanks for the clarification. Brain drain is a serious issue in Asia, especially in my country, but that's because of the working condition and the market are not as good as what the western countries are offering. Job opportunities are very limited for high caliber professionals and you will need to rely on networking and good relationship with certain parties in order to get anything decent in China. This is also why most of the bright students without a strong backing didn't even try to get a job back home. Hopefully, things will get better when I graduate. Before turning this into a political post, I better stop for now.


    Thank you.

    I have been here for quite sometime although my account shows otherwise.
    Don't get me wrong, cheering for your favorite players is not a sin, but complimenting your favorite players on the expense of disrespecting other professional players is utmost disguising. I have read almost all the posts in the threads you mentioned and I do agree that certain non-LD fans could be annoying sometimes. However, they are not as irritating as some of the LD fans here. The most recent case which really got on my nerves happened in the 11th China National Games-badminton Oct 11,2009 threads, where a fan girl made a remark which I find it hard to swallow.

    Chen Jin, being one of my acquaintances and my favourite player, was not being given the merit he should receive in that thread(by LD's fan of course, who else would have done that? ). But guess what, that's not the end of the story. According to that fan girl, the whole reason CJ was able to steal a set from LD in his semifinal games was all due to LD being generous enough to let him win. That's right, it was a charity work from LD not because of CJ's hard work. Having know CJ, I know how hard that guy have work in order to get to the position he is in. And all his sweat and hard work has been ridiculed by this very fan girl, who spoke(or typed...whatever) in a tone that doesn't even consider CJ as a worthy opponent to LD. From what she said, she gave me the impression that she was intending to strip the final honour of CJ for being able to compete with LD in the semifinals stage and was suggesting that whatever this gentleman(CJ) have achieved was all given by LD.

    And boy I was so pissed when I read it but I was calm enough not to make a scene of this(I am glad this happened on the internet, not sure what would I have done to her if I see heard this from her in person) until I read another ridiculous post by another LD's fan... which prompt me to click on LD's thread for the first time.

    Note this is not the first time I read a remark like this from a LD's fan and it certainly is not the last.
    nobody here is denying CJ's hardwork and perseverance but any unbiased badminton player can see lin dan is a better overall player than CJ. Sure LD is beatable but that is more of an exception than a norm. You yourself said you're CJ fan, can we say what u said earlier are biased too?

    btw, lcw and CJ are 2 very hard working players. So hard working that they are 2 of the top players who often lose matches because of injury related matters; lcw his knees and CJ his back

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedTheFarmer View Post
    It seems I wasn't really being clear, talent for moving quicker is different than talent for being able to "play the game" so much better than everyone else. If you're referring to movement speed as being more talented at badminton then you'd expect more sprinters to be playing the game would you not? What I was referring to when I was talking about footwork was the fluidity of Lee Chong Wei's movements, now sure Lin Dan has exceptional footwork to but personally I consider LCW's as being better. So if you're looking at it like that then yes I say Lee Chong Wei is the more talented of the two. The reason I pick up on footwork is because it's just so hard to judge talent on shots without knowing fully what it takes, you would really need to have been in the top to judge the top on something as complicated, whereas footwork is easier to judge because it is the basics of the game.
    This is just so hard to understand.....

    Able to move quick on the court != (not equal) good footwork??? What is footwork anyways???

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHVrC6D83_w
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    I thought I covered it to be honest, but I'll say again. Being born with the structure to move quicker than other players is different than being born with the ability to use the badminton footwork better than other players. Being quicker is more generic and shouldn't really be applied directly to badminton talent. Footwork is the sequence of movements around the badminton court required to reach the shuttle in the shortest and more efficient amount of time. It is one of the most important, if not the most important, things to be able to do in singles badminton at that level.

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