shuttle deflects off post and into play

[Sum]

The shuttle hit the top of the pole and landed on the floor, inside the line. Is this in or out ?

[Byro-Nenium]

ITs out

[david]

It's IN

[Byro-Nenium]

Top of the pole! Sorry i didn't realise that i was speed reading, i'm not sure but according to david its in....

[Sum]

I desperately need the firmed answer.

[Normand]

If the pole is properly located (on the doubles side lines) then the shot is in.

[Sum]

Thanh a bunch, it sounds sensible.

[Sum]

Thank a bunch, it sounds sensible.

[Jeff]

woudlnt it be considered a let?

[Zclyh3]

Yeah, it should be a let. Cause it's not suppose to hit the poles.

[Mike]

It is not a let. It is IN.
Go to IBF and check it out. Only if it is caught at the net that it's considered a let.

[kwun]

it is in. as long as it is not hitting the inside of the pole. there is no rule saying that it should be counted as out.

and i believe if the shuttle were to go around the side of the pole, touching it or not, and then comes back into the court, that's counted in as well.

[cooler]

During one tournament i had a chance to chat (more like interrogation) with the head unmpire that was on a break. I drilled him many many questions that were not in the book, or not descriptive enough in the book and other weird situation that i can dream of. You know me Well, to make a long story short....in Sum's case, it's OUT.

[Sum]

Ahha, so the pole is not considered as a part of the game, right.
That is my initial reaction to this situation, but my opponent insisted that the shuttle hit the line, rather than the pole.

[david]

Even if the shuttle were to fly around the building or maybe around the world (if it is possible) and then finally touches inside the line, it is still considered IN.

as long as it does not touch any of the player.

FINAL ANSWER : IT'S IN

[kwun]

i tend to agree with david, but if using this umpire's judgement, the only rule that i can see apply is this:

it is a fault if the shuttle:

13.2.6 touches any other object or person outside the immediate surroundings of the court;

so in other words, the pole is outside the immediate surroundings of the court. which is a believeable interpretation, but quite <i>borderline</i> IMHO.

[Sum]

I agree with your case. But in this case, the shuttle hit the top. If it did not have the top there, the shuttle could be out.