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Thread: Smart Cars
12-27-2004, 03:47 PM #1
Wonder if any members here drives a mini/smart car of sometype? What's your rave about your beloved car (assuming you love it)?
I've my eyes on the Echo hatch back, although Subaru R1 looks pretty attractive. Cute, stylish and best of all 54 mpg. The Mercedes Smart Car has 60+mpg. Merc is about 6 grand more.
Majority of the time I drive alone to work and I can't car pool because of schedule and location.
12-27-2004, 04:35 PM #2
Mercedes have released a Brabus version of the smart car
12-27-2004, 05:05 PM #3Originally Posted by jumpshot
6 grands sound low, a new street motorbike cost more than that
Last edited by cooler; 12-27-2004 at 05:08 PM.
12-27-2004, 05:32 PM #4
I watched from a TV news that Mecede Smart Cars will be started selling in the US in 2006. It's good for saving fuel. But my concern is how the smart cars will stand if collide with all these V8 6 Liters SUV.
12-27-2004, 06:53 PM #5Originally Posted by cooler
12-27-2004, 06:59 PM #6Originally Posted by Qidong
Apparently, they say it's quite safe.
12-27-2004, 07:10 PM #7Originally Posted by cooler
I heard there is a 6 month waiting list. Strange, Daimler is claiming financial loss growing in the Smart division.
12-27-2004, 08:26 PM #8Originally Posted by jumpshot
We have been driving Lexus LS400 day to day. We had used ES300 for 2 years. We are frequent "flyers" and we love to drive when we are oversea: US, Europe, Taiwan, Japan, Malaysai.
The best mini car that we drove was Echo. Although we spent a lot of time in Lexus(4000cc or 3000 cc), we never felt uncomfortable(the two front seats) for driving the Echo except when the (1300cc)Echo is hitting the speed at 110 kph(very noisy). But if you can get Echo 1500cc, will get less noise. Echo(1300cc automatic with vvti) is very responsive too, even better than the "sporty" Pueguot 206.(my friend switch from echo to 206 and felt depressed) The driving experience is much better than even some of the "larger" car like Colora, Civic, Focus, Sunny, Demio, Rover... We can't comment on the back seat(me and my wife only). (PS. the Echo Verso is not as good as the hatch back for driving)
Echo, I believe, is the best. Back a few years, the Austrailian put around 30-40 small cars for crashing test. Echo gets 91pts, Mer A-class 86, Civic 81. If the "Smart" only has 3 stars(Only remember the best), you better think harder.
3 Awards won
I think Echo got the most amound the mini, worldwide.
4 Price and performance
Nothing to say, if you buy Smart/Mer, please consider Toyota "Prius" at that price. The fuel you save, the comfort you get, the envy eyes you get, the enviroment you protected, the safty you get, the "in-look" you have....
Toyota should be outstanding for trouble-free
6 Second hand value
You know more about it
12-27-2004, 11:32 PM #9
Thank you RedKingJoe.
You have just doubled my interest on the Echo.
12-28-2004, 03:27 AM #10Originally Posted by jumpshot
however 20k is still very expensive when compared an echo, a proven product.
12-28-2004, 03:34 AM #11Originally Posted by jumpshot
we i mean here in calgary. Not sure if the 2 are owned by dealers as demo or owned by some greenpeace activists but our newspaper said calgary has 2 of them since summer 2004, and i personally was waiting on red light next to one .
12-28-2004, 03:55 AM #12
We see these Smart cars here all the time, they are everywhere. I remember I went to a 'motor show' which must have been about 4 years ago, they were advertising the Smart Car with its changeable car panels...I thought it was like the fascias on Nokia mobile phones...and so when I had the chance, I tried to pull one off to see how it fitted together...you should have seen the look on the sales guys... I was told (or rather shouted) that it was not a user serviceable part LATER!! I promptly left after a short apology before the security arrived
12-28-2004, 08:27 PM #13Originally Posted by Wizbit
12-28-2004, 08:44 PM #14Originally Posted by redkingjoe
Some parts come off and some don't, that could be an expensive mistake if you get it wrong especially at mercedes prices
12-28-2004, 09:15 PM #15Originally Posted by Dill
I think Swatch should have developed the car with Lexus: a cheap luxury car with model number SW100. (just need to do a "face lift" of an Echo, hehe )
12-29-2004, 01:39 AM #16Originally Posted by jumpshot
In Japan domestic market, the total turnover of Toyota is = more than the total turnover of Nissan+Honda+Mazda+Mitshubitshi+Subaru. The japanese picked that for you.
2 The first time I handled a Echo was 15 years ago when my family/relatives in LA had: Sunny, civic, Mazda323, Large Chrisler, toyota tercel(now echo). None of them come clsoe to the driving or sitting experince of the Tercel(now Echo).
3 Before you buy, please pay attention to time that Toyota does a major update of the model. I think Echo is about time...please check
4 I remember I have seen somewhere that BMW is buying Toyota's Engine for putting in their "Coopers Mini"...than you know the quality
12-29-2004, 02:07 AM #17Originally Posted by redkingjoe
Ford gave up designing their own hybrid engine and use toyota's hybrid engine in their (ford) first hybrid suv.
Meanwhile, dummies ford and diamler-chrsysler bot and own part of ballard power, LOL
Last edited by cooler; 12-29-2004 at 02:11 AM.
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