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    I don't think it really matters very much if a badminton bag is fake or not as long as it is well made and it serves its purpose of carrying and protecting the racquets and other stuffs you might want to carry. Of course we need to consider the price. Fakes can't be priced similar to an original. If the price of a quality fake bag is way way cheaper than the original then I will definitely buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielg
    I don't think it really matters very much if a badminton bag is fake or not as long as it is well made and it serves its purpose of carrying and protecting the racquets and other stuffs you might want to carry. Of course we need to consider the price. Fakes can't be priced similar to an original. If the price of a quality fake bag is way way cheaper than the original then I will definitely buy it.
    that's what my mom said about the fake racquets she got me. But having the real ones is ALOT better than having the fake one.

    I dought a fake Yonex bag would have teh same protection a real one would hold. But I agree on the pricing part. Farke should never cost teh same as real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielg
    I don't think it really matters very much if a badminton bag is fake or not as long as it is well made and it serves its purpose of carrying and protecting the racquets and other stuffs you might want to carry. Of course we need to consider the price. Fakes can't be priced similar to an original. If the price of a quality fake bag is way way cheaper than the original then I will definitely buy it.
    That's exactly what they want you to think so that they can make money off of you.

    In the other hand, we don't know what kind of materials they used for manufacturing those fake bags. In the worst cases, they might use some "black hearts" materials, such as the fabrics from dead people slept-ons or dirty fabrics. (Yeah, they can always try to make it "look" clean by bleaching)

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    I agree that having an authentic one is definitely better than having a fake one. Given a choice, I will almost always choose to own an authentic item. But, we need to be practical - remember we are talking about bags not racquets, the purpose of a bag is to carry your stuffs - most authentic bags (specially Yonex) are expensive and for a fraction of its cost you can buy a fake one that will carry the same amount of things you carry in your authentic bag and because it is priced cheaply, you can even afford to buy a couple of them or even 3 of them for the price of one authentic bag. The Authentic ones cost a lot more because they have higher capital infused in their business and want to recoup as much as they can, and also most of the so-called fakes are manufactured by the same companies that are sub-contracted by big companies to make their products. I doubt Yonex, Wilson, Prince, etc.. have their own factories just to make bags. Most, if not all, have sub-contractors manufacture their bags for them.

    While they may use materials that are not as good as the authentic ones I sincerely doubt if they will use something from a dead person.

    Bags unlike a racquet will have no effect whatsoever on your game.
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    You might want to read more news from China. Don't be too naive.

    Some "black hearts" manufacturers re-packaged those beds which dead people slept on and made them look new outside and sell them as new ones. Of course on the performance wise, it doesn't affect anything. However, on the health side and potentially other problems, it might mean something. Especially, the thing will be totally different from knowing and not knowing what it is made of.

    At least, if I know my bag is made of such materials, I wouldn't even want to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejeff
    You might want to read more news from China. Don't be too naive.

    Some "black hearts" manufacturers re-packaged those beds which dead people slept on and made them look new outside and sell them as new ones. Of course on the performance wise, it doesn't affect anything. However, on the health side and potentially other problems, it might mean something. Especially, the thing will be totally different from knowing and not knowing what it is made of.

    At least, if I know my bag is made of such materials, I wouldn't even want to use it.
    No need for name calling - How sure are you that those Authentic ones made by their sub contructors aren't using the "blackhearts" themselves? I've yet to hear a case of anyone dying or getting ill from a badminton bag and I may not be as "mature and intelligent" as you but I don't think that at 37yrs of age I can be called naive.

    Why are we even arguing and debating this? Its our own money and most certainly we are entitled to buy whatever we want with it. Some choose to spend more money on branded original, while others choose to save money by buying knockoffs. Again these are just badminton bags we are talking about, and my views on Originals and fakes are focuses on this topic alone and does not apply to other things like racquet or shoes , etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielg
    No need for name calling - How sure are you that those Authentic ones made by their sub contructors aren't using the "blackhearts" themselves? I've yet to hear a case of anyone dying or getting ill from a badminton bag and I may not be as "mature and intelligent" as you but I don't think that at 37yrs of age I can be called naive.

    Why are we even arguing and debating this? Its our own money and most certainly we are entitled to buy whatever we want with it. Some choose to spend more money on branded original, while others choose to save money by buying knockoffs. Again these are just badminton bags we are talking about, and my views on Originals and fakes are focuses on this topic alone and does not apply to other things like racquet or shoes , etc...
    Read more news; People do get sick because of those small things you consider in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejeff
    Read more news; People do get sick because of those small things you consider in China.
    Ok, please post some links here so that I can be "educated" about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielg
    Ok, please post some links here so that I can be "educated" about it.
    You are ignoring the fact that Yonex Bag will last and protect your racquets more efficiently than a fake one would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeDudeInBlue
    You are ignoring the fact that Yonex Bag will last and protect your racquets more efficiently than a fake one would.
    I am not advocating that all of you go out and buy fakes. There are a lot of badminton bags with out names or labels on it. I have an original Yonex bag (2420) and a fake Yonex bag - know what? Maybe its just me but I can't even tell them apart if I don't check the inside of the bag which I marked- it looks the same, feels the same and offer as much protection as the original, in fact the fake one has added padding on the bottom of the bag which makes it stiffer and offers more cushioning than the original and the shoulder strap has more padding also which makes it easier on my shoulder to carry.

    I don't know why we are even arguing about this. We are talking about bags not racquets or shoes or anything that will affect you in the way you play, its like we are arguing about wrist bands or something really trivial. I respect you guys and agree that whenever possible I will always choose to buy an original bag ( I do own one myself) but if a fake is presented to me with an attractive price, I will not hesitate to buy it since, for me, its just a bag which I use to carry stuffs around. C'mon guys, lets just end this here - it's getting rather silly already don't you think so? PEACE
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    I WANT IT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by versionone_

    I WANT IT.
    Wow, that looks real good! How many racquets does it hold?

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    Here is a real tennis bag with good price. Shipping is $5.75 in US. Call to check the shipping to Canada.

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/desc...-YPSTB6TH.html

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    put your fake badminton bag with your raquets in teh sun for a while and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeDudeInBlue
    put your fake badminton bag with your raquets in teh sun for a while and see what happens.
    Why would you do that? I don't think you would try it even in an original bag. That is not much of a real world test. In the real world we carry it from our house to the court and back (you either walk your way there or use a vehicle of somekind to reach the court and back) .

    I'll tell you this though, you put your racquet in your bag, any bag -fake or original- heck, it doesn't even have to contain something - leave it out in the sun - either the bag gets stolen or you get sun burnt. No one will willingly leave their bag, be it empty or not out in the sun, at least I won't

    Sigh.... Guys, I don't know why you insist on continuing this, at no time did I say don't buy original bags, I am only pointing out that sometimes practicality dictates that we consider cheaper alternative which will be just as functional as the original. Obviously this is my personal point of view. I never claim that my point of view is the only correct view, nor am I in any way trying to ram this down anyone's throat. You got your views and opinions about things, I respect that. I got mine so I hope you can reciprocate by respecting it also. It doesn't mean you accept my views as correct, - bec. the point of the matter is no person's view is absolutely correct - just different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielg
    Sigh.... Guys, I don't know why you insist on continuing this, at no time did I say don't buy original bags, I am only pointing out that sometimes practicality dictates that we consider cheaper alternative which will be just as functional as the original. Obviously this is my personal point of view. I never claim that my point of view is the only correct view, nor am I in any way trying to ram this down anyone's throat. You got your views and opinions about things, I respect that. I got mine so I hope you can reciprocate by respecting it also. It doesn't mean you accept my views as correct, - bec. the point of the matter is no person's view is absolutely correct - just different.
    One more point. It is not very practical to put a counterfeit yonex bag as a "cheaper alternative" since those counterfeit makers does not pay royalties to yonex. It is because of these "cheap alternatives" that makes the fake industry thrives. Like what Yonex stated. Buying a fake from a fakes distributors will end you up engaging in illegal transactions.

    Enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielg
    I don't think it really matters very much if a badminton bag is fake or not as long as it is well made and it serves its purpose of carrying and protecting the racquets and other stuffs you might want to carry. Of course we need to consider the price. Fakes can't be priced similar to an original. If the price of a quality fake bag is way way cheaper than the original then I will definitely buy it.
    If a manufacture have the confidence to make better and cheaper product, why can they put up their own brand (i.e. clones) and competite for the market?

    Making / selling fake (regardless price or quality) is against the law, period.

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