How would you define 'Intermediate' or 'Advanced' players?

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  1. Sealman

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    Have seen various threads looking for Intermediate or Advanced players. How would you define 'Intermediate' or 'Advanced' standards?

    Here's a sample (with due credit to Netasia):
    http://groups.msn.com/SingaporeMixedDoubleBadmintonGroup/_whatsnew.msnw

    Going by the above definition, would believe most players from 'jurong twister' would be advanced players. But there are some who claim to be advanced players......:eek:

    Enjoy the game. Cheers :D

    PS. I hope this is the right place to post this thread.
     
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    Hi,

    i think this is a ok place to post this.
    As players sometimes looking for groups to join but they r not sure what is the meaning or the terms it means.
    But for the pg from Netasia, i think almost all r ok,
    as for the no of years experience play is not so true.
    Some players get to intermidiate slower, while some r faster.
    thks.

    ceng
     
  3. Netasia

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    agree, it's very hand to have a guideline for "experience", but it does make a great difference when it comes to advance stage i believe(not there yet :p)

    I think i shoud classified the gradings into 5 stage instead:
    amature, intermediate, advance, expert, professional. However how do you define an advance with an expert player? Professional can be classified as international players.
     
  4. WhyrlWynd

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    beginner - intermediate - advance, each level further breaks down to 3 level, low, mid and high.

    beginner - either just play or know the game but inconsistant with shots and pretty much play with techniques the body deem appropriate.

    intermediate - knows the game, knows the technique, quite consistant but lacks the commitment and consistant training to play real good.

    advance - know the game, know the technique, consistant and train constantly.

    I would categorize leisure players at high-intermediate maximum while professionals as advance.
     
  5. jimbo

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    Food for thoughts

    This is an interesting topic. Over the past few months, I've seen quite a handful of players (regardless of age) claimed themselves as 'advanced' players. I contacted few of them and realised that they couldnt even stay close to a 'intermediate' player like myself. Though I was ex-Msia state player and US-state player, and currently CC player, I never consider myself any closer to 'advanced' level yet. Well, if u guys consider jurong-twister's players are 'advanced', perhaps I am one of them :D . I dont think we should use the term 'advanced' coz it meant you are inches from a professional level. However, I think the word 'experienced' would be more appropriate if you have played for state, national and CC (forget about school-level, kids).

    IMHO, I rate those ex-National players as 'advanced + experienced' players as I'm playing regularly with them. Few of them (esp those 40s) are still the master of the game though I manage to give them a good run for the money.

    Perhaps it's time for certain players look closely at themselves when they play against 'experienced' players.

    cheerz,
    jimbo
     
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    Hi,

    i think to expert-pro. i not sure as they are quite to the same level.

    ceng
     
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    frankly speaking, we will only rate ourself as low - medium intermediate players, but we are very happy to welcome advanced players into our group :D

    we used to have 3 indonesian state players; 1 from ujung pandang & 1 from solo & 1 from surabaya who have ever trained at Djarum Kudus & Suryanaga.

    our team consider them as advanced players, but they themselves dont think they are at advanced level yet.

    i believe there is no way to define which levels that you are at. the best way is to come to the session that people are offering and judge yourself :crying::crying::crying:
     
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    Base on my definition, on a good day, im beginner-high, on a bad day, im beginner-med :crying:
     
  9. Zongy

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    what do i count as?

    intermediate ?i play 3 times a week in my scl team...so i think i should be that
     
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    well i dont know what i should call myself too.been thinking very long on what level i am,however judging from netasia's guideline i think i should be around intermediate.but to be humble a little maybe low intermediate.btu shouldnt state players be advance.my coach was a exnational so maybe he should be around the professional level.badminton is really his source of income too!!!
     
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    I feel like coming down to learn from you guys. But Jurong is awfully far from my house in Hougang.
     
  12. surge

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    there is no way to determine whether you are advance or beginner. it really depends on the group that you reguarly play with. when i started playing w my girlfriend i was beginner and she was advanced to me cos she is ex school team. then i got better and consider myself a intermmidiate player or above average.
    when i started joining different groups to play in this forum, i realised actually i am only beginner level cos some of them got so sick of my lousy skill and won even wan to partner with me. after about 2 months of playing with them ( thanks to some kind souls who are willing to partner me), i am now better and most of them are ok to partner with me now. then i join another group and realised i am back to beginner level to these ppl again. so now i think i will just rate myself as a recreational player.:) as long as when i play with them i get to exercise and run and they dun mind my skills, i keep on playing......:D

    sometimes i wish my waistline behaves like BG66 that will lose a few lbs after just a few games:rolleyes:
     
  13. Netasia

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    lol surge, I loss about 5.5kg playing 4 times a week for only 2 month plus.

    Different double partner plays and demand differently, so your skill might be a true int level, but can't perform as such because both of you are not sure how to cover each other. If possible try fixing a partner which is around your level and start building the "understanding".

    The guideline that I had set is only valid for your stroke, not the way on how you play in the court. There are more things to consider to classify oneself, such as court-craft, ball anticipation, consistantcy, ability to spot "no man lands" etc...
     

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