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    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
    Every time it happens I don't tell anyone though, I really don't want to visit any doctors. The orthopedic doc made me stop playing for 1 month! As long as it goes back in place immediately I can remain quiet about it, but my fear is that one day it doesn't go back like the time when I posted this thread...
    Every time it happens you are suffering semi-permanent ligament damage. If you see a specialist doctor (yes, such as your orthopaedic doctor!), then you may be able to limit or partially reverse the damage.

    No matter how good your doctor is, he can't help you if you won't tell him the truth! He needs to be informed of your condition, and your anxiety is keeping him in the dark.

    Note that doctors usually recommend conservative treatment at first, because it is the safest method. With a persistent injury that fails to respond to conservative treatment, they may look into surgical options.

    I don't know about the options for ligament surgery; you may simply be able to have them shortened (to improve their elasticity). It may be that a (relatively) safe and straightforward operation could stop you from dislocating your shoulder again.

    Of course, there might not be any good surgical options. I don't know, and you don't know. What I do know is that your injury will only get worse if untreated.

    I know it's hard to confront these things; I was putting off talking to my GP about surgery for months. But I'm now glad I (at last) went to see him. I hope and expect to be able to say that in 3-4 months time, when I should have recovered from impending surgery and finally be rid of chronic shoulder pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilfredlgf View Post
    No wonder I haven't seen you for quite a while - and you said you were studying!
    I have been studying. Partially. =) Panic mode hasn't begun yet, so I keep falling asleep on my book.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gollum View Post
    Every time it happens you are suffering semi-permanent ligament damage. If you see a specialist doctor (yes, such as your orthopaedic doctor!), then you may be able to limit or partially reverse the damage.

    No matter how good your doctor is, he can't help you if you won't tell him the truth! He needs to be informed of your condition, and your anxiety is keeping him in the dark.

    Note that doctors usually recommend conservative treatment at first, because it is the safest method. With a persistent injury that fails to respond to conservative treatment, they may look into surgical options.

    I don't know about the options for ligament surgery; you may simply be able to have them shortened (to improve their elasticity). It may be that a (relatively) safe and straightforward operation could stop you from dislocating your shoulder again.

    Of course, there might not be any good surgical options. I don't know, and you don't know. What I do know is that your injury will only get worse if untreated.

    I know it's hard to confront these things; I was putting off talking to my GP about surgery for months. But I'm now glad I (at last) went to see him. I hope and expect to be able to say that in 3-4 months time, when I should have recovered from impending surgery and finally be rid of chronic shoulder pain.
    Hehe, my doc threatened to 'gas' me(in other words, operation) the next time it happens again... so... I decided... never to visit him again. He talked about putting some metallic device into my shoulder... not shortening ligaments (eeew). Either way, it sounds really bad. But hey, it doesn't happen often, I can sense 'loose-shoulder' days, and I usually play/train more carefully then.

    Anyone here knows of any medication that can be consumed to strengthened the ligaments again? Any way to tighten the ligaments besides cutting me up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
    Hehe, my doc threatened to 'gas' me(in other words, operation) the next time it happens again... so... I decided... never to visit him again.
    I think that's a bad decision.

    Your doctor can't force you to do anything; but he can explain the options, and then you can choose. At the moment, you're sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "I can't hear you! La, la, la!"

    If there's some personal issue about your doctor -- say, you just don't like him -- then see someone else. You have the right.

    Anyone here knows of any medication that can be consumed to strengthened the ligaments again? Any way to tighten the ligaments besides cutting me up?
    No. You're stuck with loose ligaments forever.

    I'm hypermobile, which means I have inherited loose ligaments (I was born with them). Consequently I am more prone to joint injury than "normal" people. There's no way for me to change this. The best I can do is to work on improving muscle balance/condition, to increase my joint stability.

    Again, there might be a surgical option. I don't know. My ligaments aren't loose enough for it to be worth enquiring (I've never dislocated anything).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
    Last week(Friday) while training, I did an overhead lob. I don't know how, maybe the swing went wrong or something like that. The next thing, I was grabbing my shoulder, it was dislocated. After a while it went back in place, great relief! But after that my arm/shoulder was pretty sore when I held it at certain angles.

    So I skipped 2 training sessions, and today(Friday) I resumed training assuming I'd be okay. It wasn't sore anymore.

    Then when playing a doubles game, I lobbed overhead again and it went out of place again! This time it took much longer to get back in place. When it did I breathed a great sigh of relief.

    But this time it's much more painful as compared to last week.

    So what should I do? I followed my coach's advice last week, to do push ups. But it still went out of place when I thought I was okay.

    This time he told me to lift weights(about 3-4kg). I'll do that.

    But my main question is, how long do I need to rest? I've actually got a tournament(KLBA doubles open) next Friday.. I really don't want to skip it.. but..

    Any advice? How long to rest, what to do to prevent it from dislocating it again?

    Actually, it can be considered my 4th time dislocating, but the 1st 2 times my left arm/shoulder was the 'victim' and it had nothing to do with badminton, and I'm a right hander so it doesn't affect me much.
    it happened to me.02 i dislocated my shoulder and 3 months ago happen again. what you did wrong is using too much arm and shoulder instead of wrist and finger. you need to traine your wrist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gollum View Post
    I think that's a bad decision.

    Your doctor can't force you to do anything; but he can explain the options, and then you can choose. At the moment, you're sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "I can't hear you! La, la, la!"

    If there's some personal issue about your doctor -- say, you just don't like him -- then see someone else. You have the right.

    No. You're stuck with loose ligaments forever.
    You're right about the "sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "I can't hear you! La, la, la!" part. Well, I don't like him because I had to stop training for a whole month, after that only had less than 2 weeks I think to train for a tournament(in which I lost rubber set in singles, so if I had trained..). So yes, I don't like him for an absolutely childish reason and because of him I have developed this fear for all doctors. Haha. I mean, I always had some fear of doctors(not needles, but the bad news that they bring), and by connecting loss of badminton -> doctors..

    I'm stuck with loose ligaments forever?? That sounds a bit sad.. well, not the end of the world.. so long I don't over train(I cut down a lot now) or over play..

    But honestly I believe there is a way to cure it. Perhaps I may someday visit an orthopaedic doctor with some interest in sports injuries and find out..

    Quote Originally Posted by renly View Post
    it happened to me.02 i dislocated my shoulder and 3 months ago happen again. what you did wrong is using too much arm and shoulder instead of wrist and finger. you need to traine your wrist
    That's precisely what I've done, strengthened my wrist. But sometimes in the excitement of a game I tend to overdue things..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
    I'm stuck with loose ligaments forever?? That sounds a bit sad.. well, not the end of the world.. so long I don't over train(I cut down a lot now) or over play..
    I could be wrong. So far as I know there is no way to tighten loose ligaments (except, perhaps, surgery).

    Unfortunately, some injuries are permanent, and some people (such as me) have inherently inferior bodies due to our genes.

    Oh well, at least my genes gave me an unusually good brain.

    But honestly I believe there is a way to cure it. Perhaps I may someday visit an orthopaedic doctor with some interest in sports injuries and find out..
    That's a great idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
    You're right about the "sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "I can't hear you! La, la, la!" part. Well, I don't like him because I had to stop training for a whole month, after that only had less than 2 weeks I think to train for a tournament(in which I lost rubber set in singles, so if I had trained..). So yes, I don't like him for an absolutely childish reason and because of him I have developed this fear for all doctors. Haha. I mean, I always had some fear of doctors(not needles, but the bad news that they bring), and by connecting loss of badminton -> doctors..

    I'm stuck with loose ligaments forever?? That sounds a bit sad.. well, not the end of the world.. so long I don't over train(I cut down a lot now) or over play..

    But honestly I believe there is a way to cure it. Perhaps I may someday visit an orthopaedic doctor with some interest in sports injuries and find out..



    That's precisely what I've done, strengthened my wrist. But sometimes in the excitement of a game I tend to overdue things..
    my guest is you learned to ply badminton not in your early age, just like me so it kind of hard to change your game. oh ya... you must rest for six week and you ll be ok again.that s what my occupational therapy said.
    not bad if you badminton maniak

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    Quote Originally Posted by renly View Post
    my guest is you learned to ply badminton not in your early age, just like me so it kind of hard to change your game. oh ya... you must rest for six week and you ll be ok again.that s what my occupational therapy said.
    not bad if you badminton maniak
    Lol! No.. I went for training since a young age.. injuries like dislocated shoulders and injured wrists started to creep in only when I trained competitively(so called anyway).

    But anyway that was.. 2 years ago. Now injuries are rare occurrences, although they still do happen when I'm not careful enough(just sprained my ankle during training last Sunday). I think injuries just like me.. A LOT.

    Like Gollum, I may have inherited loose ligaments. My dad dislocated his shoulder before too.. so maybe there's 'bad' genes in me too. Lol. *Shrugs* I've no idea.

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    I have had problems with shoulder tendinitis for a while and I can tell you that the best medicine was to lay of badminton for a while. I still play less often, but my shoulder has gotten better. I was surprised to hear that your coach was telling you to do push ups. I dont think you should do anything to really agravate the shoulder. Take it easy, and see a doctor who deals with shoulder dislocation and knows what he/she is talking about. Follow there advice and dont be stubborn.

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    So How is it going now Joanne ?
    Have you been to the doctors about it again ?

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    Default Recurrence of Shoulder dislocation

    Usually if you want to play competitive racquet sports and are below 40 yrs old, you are likely to have recurrence of shoulder dislocation. I suppose you should get in touch with an Orthopaedic Surgeon who specialises in shoulder surgery.

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