06-27-2008, 10:55 PM #273
put more money into it. i heard on the news that if a certain player were to get knocked out of wimbledon (3rd round or so), they would still be guaranteed $60,000. now even the winner of the world championships in badminton wont get as much.
06-28-2008, 11:55 PM #274
Wilson in the US have a lot of opens too in america. i just checked Wilson website. not popular in the US but they still take place. why don't you guys talk much about american players? there are some. lol
02-06-2009, 12:59 AM #275
With the recent events, victor sponsoring korea, LN gonna sponsor china badminton (partly or fully), i can say that badminton is on the verge of making into the mainstream and big companies jumping in now is a pretty good proof. Yonex has done their part of nurturing badminton in asia (ie china, taiwan, korea), and come the time yonex should move on, onto new market that needed yonex to grow badminton.
02-07-2009, 02:28 PM #276
other than corporations sponsoring and creating awareness of badminton. I think locally, individuals and small organizations can create awareness of the sport by having more programs and events related to badminton. we need to teach people about badminton and get them interested. i notice in Europe they create leagues and operate badminton leagues like they do for European soccer (football) leagues. like Peter Gade plays for a club and that club is part of a circuit that has clubs compete against each other. also, with these leagues and competition, it generates better players and soon better players will be demanding for equipment. where i am residing, the only circuits i am aware about are OBA, university, college and high school. which is not enough.
yeah then we move on to the financial aspect... we need money in sponsoring and advertising.
another way to look at it is...
well look at demark, the population of that country is about 5.5 million however is able to produce top players in the international scene. that is amazing... whatever they do there, they should implement it here and the United States. i think they have competitive leagues there and able to generate great players. hmmmm
i ran out of ranting...
02-09-2009, 03:24 PM #277
Sorry didnt have the energy to read all pages so if this has been asked and answered just point me to that post
Why doesnt more pros do this? I can understand if western pros dont do this since the sport isnt that big over here but in the asian countries its rather big right? Wouldnt companies down there be willing to sponsor players ther since its pretty good promotion thus more cash into the hopefully making the sport growing?
02-09-2009, 05:41 PM #278
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02-09-2009, 09:36 PM #282
The existence of independent players and clubs will weaken the roles of both the national association and the sponsor. Just imagine how Yonex is going to negotiate with so many independent Indonesian players and PBSI. As far as Yonex is concerned, it will allocate a fixed amount of funds, say $xxx, to Indonesia. This amount $xxx used to go to PBSI alone, but now with independent players it is going to be diluted. How is Yonex going to monitor that it is getting its money's worth?
02-09-2009, 10:03 PM #283
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02-09-2009, 10:10 PM #284
How is Yonex going to monitor that it is getting its money's worth?
02-09-2009, 11:50 PM #285
A sponsorship deal is no act of charity or altruism.
It's a commercial transaction where benefit is everyone's goal.
Companies like Yonex prefer lumping of players (under National Associations, Clubs, et al) as that means fewer negotiators and smaller payouts
However, if sponsorship processes in badminton were as they are today in football, tennis, cricket and basketball, it would certainly benefit the players. One also cannot discount the possibility that such a route could take the level of competition up to positive heights never reached yet in badminton.
Well, Shylock has been known to the world for over 400 years now.
I'd say it's a bit late in the day to suddenly sit up and be offended
02-09-2009, 11:57 PM #286
Time will tell if independents will be good for the game. So far it doesn't seem to be doing well in Malaysia. Also we have a real financial crisis now and sponsors, especially sponsors with high-end and expensive product range, will be badly hurt. I only hope the so-called independents do not end up in "retirement home" for players who are reaching their sunset years.
02-10-2009, 05:42 AM #287
Yonex seems to be loosing out in many negotiations with Associations...
Team China will use Li Ning products
Team Korea will use Victor products
Team Indonesia already said the contract with Yonex will only be extended to the end of 2009... In 2010... maybe going individual?
Team Malaysia... maybe negotiating for this year ... going individual maybe?
02-10-2009, 06:26 AM #288
No doubt, the current financial crisis will make them less inclined, but, as history showed us, crisis will come and go.
So, once this crisis is over in 1-2 years time, the era of professionalism in badminton will hopefully take off!
02-10-2009, 07:10 AM #289
Badminton is very different from say tennis or basketball. The ATP and NBA have a huge locked-in revenue stream from television. These revenues are so large that they can afford to pay top prize money. Badminton as we know it today gets money from mainly Yonex, and most of it goes to the national associations. Even then this money is peanuts. We now have badminton independents that want to take a bite of the cherry of this peanuts pool of money.
Indonesia has been very strong in badminton for a long time. But it was somewhat weakened by the Asian financial crisis a decade ago. We now have another even worse financial crisis which I am afraid will be detrimental to Indonesia. I hope I am wrong but I have an uneasy feeling that the independents and the PBSI in Indonesia are fighting for a dwindling pool of reduced funds.
Malaysia is luckier as they now have a government who can provide more funds to the BAM.
Even China, probably the only country whose players can command higher income from individual sponsoring, will not allow their national stars to be independent.
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