09-07-2013, 02:35 AM #2007
Iirc Ahsan has never exceeded 270 km/h on his smashes with the FB. I can only imagine it going higher if he were to use something like the NR Z Speed.
09-07-2013, 06:19 AM #2008
Mogensen is a hard smasher - he just rarely goes for power as placement and angle are much more important in their style of play. He can and does smash harder than Ahsan. However I still don't buy for one second that he actually uses the FB, if you look at the movement of the racket you'll notice it can't be so light (the shuttle moves too fast for his sometimes rather slow swings). Ahsan just might be using one as he really does have fast racket movements.
09-07-2013, 06:43 PM #2009
these guys might b using some other fbs than those we got from store.
09-07-2013, 06:44 PM #2010
6u for these super players. i for one dun buy the claim.
09-08-2013, 03:34 AM #2011
The stringer for Yonex at the 2013 World Championship has confirmed Mogensen and Ahsan are indeed using the Arc FB lightweight. He also mentioned that Mogensen are testing the stringer to their limit. Lightest racket>Arc FB, thinnest string>BG66UM and highest tension>34-36lbs. Not those 3U or paint job as speculated. Boe using the 4U VT80. He also attached some Yonex players' racket, string and tension at thread 246.
If u understand Chinese.
09-14-2013, 11:28 PM #2012
I find it very strange that almost all the Chinese MS are using the first gen of Li ning N series. We are already on the third gen now but these players stick to the first one... What does that mean? LD, CL, WZM, DPY, CJ, even BCL at the recent Axiata cup...
09-15-2013, 04:51 AM #2013
Most of them stick to what they're used to. Was the same when they were still sponsored by Yonex...
09-15-2013, 10:03 AM #2014
I don't remember for the whole scad, but BCL switched to the Arc 10 when it came out, as with PG and TH. LCW of course changed his racket each time a new one came out. In fact, players faithfull to old modem are a minority I would think.
09-15-2013, 10:33 AM #2015
LD stuck to the At700, FHF to the 2nd gen Ti-10....there are probably a couple more examples. It's not the majority that keeps on playing with one racket for ages, but a good portion of those that get no extra money when they use new stuff (i.e. players in teams without individual contracts/endorsements).
2nd gen was actually quite popular, I don't know what your problem is - N55II, N50II, N90II were widely used. So was the N30II. The N70II was the only unused 2nd gen racket with a 1gen model that was played (N33 and N77 were never used by any player afaik, neither were their 2nd gen counterparts).
09-15-2013, 10:39 AM #2016
I specifically mentioned MS. LD is the only one you mentioned, and he switched to Li Ning before there was a replacement for the Armortec series.
The racquets you mentioned were not popular among the MS. I can think of the N80 used by JOJ, but he switched to the old N90 not long after. I find this unsuccess of the second and third gen of the N50, 55, 70, and 90 peculiar.
09-15-2013, 11:02 AM #2017
The 2nd gen simply wasn't a real 2nd gen - the 2nd gen models were different from their 1st gen models, not being simple upgrades, so to speak. The N90II, for example, is a lot lighter than the N90, but it was used n singles and other disciplines (Boonsak used it for example).
The N55II is also different from the N55, although it's been quite a while since I played with the 1st gen so I can't put my finger on what exactly the differences were. Probably a bit lighter as well.
As for the N50 (used by DPY, WZM), it's a slight bit stiffer than the N50II. And red
Also, simply sticking to MS is kinda stupid - I could just as well point out how the NR rackets are remarkably unsuccessful in MS. Just doesn't say anything about the racket, really. Additionally, ever notice how most Chinese players seem to imitate what their colleagues in the same discipline are using?
I mean almost all MD players use the N55II, N70, or N50II. Most singles players stick to the N55 and N50 (with the exception of those able to handle the N90).
N90II was popular with male XD players (Zheng Bo, Jakub Bitman) while the female WD/XD players use the N30, N30II or N60.
WS is actually the most diverse discipine in terms of rackets used.
I believe it's not only players not liking other rackets, but also them sticking to what works for their (sometimes more successful) colleagues and not experimenting around a whole lot.
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09-15-2013, 11:08 AM #2018
Actually, I wonder if Li ning realised that its first gen racquets were not user-friendly, that is, not for the amateur, thus doing easier-to-use racquets for the second and third gen. Just an hypothesis.
09-15-2013, 11:31 AM #2019
Hm can't really say there's a difference in user-friendliness (that even a word? )...apart from the N90/N90II. Li Ning rackets are actually quite user friendly as they're not as stiff as most other rackets endorsed by pros.
09-15-2013, 11:47 AM #2020
Is that so? I was told the n55I is difficult to handle, something like to heavy, but I have not tried it myself. The red n50 is indeed gorgeous
09-15-2013, 11:53 AM #2021
Nah the N55 is not really hard to use. For me, only the N90/N90II are really hard to use, all others may be subject to personal opinion/preference but aren't really very demanding.
09-15-2013, 12:05 PM #2022
I would agree for the n90II, one of the few Li Ning I have tried, and could not produce anything with it!
09-16-2013, 06:31 AM #2023
Can anyone confirm whether Porntip was using a N90II in the China Masters? It looks like it to me, but the video I watched was not that clear!
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