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    Question Is doubles inferior?

    The thread about Wong CH switching to doubles with Lee WW got me thinking. In China, all the kids starting off play singles. Only later on in their careers, do they specialise (I believed Gade was the other way round). This is good, as it develops the basic skills (footwork / strokes) and technical abilities.

    In China, there is some kind of prejudice against doubles. Many times when I explained that I was a doubles player, they seemed to be less keen to play against/with me (ok it might be a lack of my skills, but lets not go there). I also noticed that all the good players in the badminton halls are predominantly singles players, and occasionally play some doubles if courts are scarce.

    Thus, is this the reason why China is less developed in mens doubles? It can't be a lack of talent, or coaching. So is all the mens talent gravitating to singles?

    Edit: there might be a lack of coaching. They drew on Tang Xian Hu to coach mens doubles, when Tang is a singles coach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcl49
    The thread about Wong CH switching to doubles with Lee WW got me thinking. In China, all the kids starting off play singles. Only later on in their careers, do they specialise (I believed Gade was the other way round). This is good, as it develops the basic skills (footwork / strokes) and technical abilities.

    In China, there is some kind of prejudice against doubles. Many times when I explained that I was a doubles player, they seemed to be less keen to play against/with me (ok it might be a lack of my skills, but lets not go there). I also noticed that all the good players in the badminton halls are predominantly singles players, and occasionally play some doubles if courts are scarce.

    Thus, is this the reason why China is less developed in mens doubles? It can't be a lack of talent, or coaching. So is all the mens talent gravitating to singles?

    Edit: there might be a lack of coaching. They drew on Tang Xian Hu to coach mens doubles, when Tang is a singles coach.
    I'm thinking its just the endurance it takes to play singles is too much. China in particular likes to have their atheletes young. If you notice, they retire alot of their players early like...late 20s. Except for that one womens singles player whos like 30, and thats ancient in china's eyes. Anyway, i would think doubles, is a different game all together, but you dont have to cover as much ground and in theory youre hitting the bird half as the number of times u would in singles.

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    In Malaysia (or KL more specifically), at almost every recreational badminton courts, you will see doubles matches. I personally started off playing doubles in school because there was a lack of courts and satisfying 4 people is better than 2. So, in Malaysia, doubles and singles are similarly superior.

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    For both badminton & tennis, some of the quickest, most athletic & creative players are the doubles specialists. Singles tends to be more of a stamina contest. The truly impressive players are the ones that can play both singles & doubles at a very high level... however, you just don't see this as much anymore since players tend to specialize (in both badminton & tennis).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcl49
    The thread about Wong CH switching to doubles with Lee WW got me thinking.

    In China, there is some kind of prejudice against doubles. Many times when I explained that I was a doubles player, they seemed to be less keen to play against/with me (ok it might be a lack of my skills, but lets not go there). I also noticed that all the good players in the badminton halls are predominantly singles players, and occasionally play some doubles if courts are scarce.
    I don't think it's fair to compare the two. Because both games are different - I think doubles is easier physically - however, I think you end up hitting more smashes in doubles and also think doubles is much more quicker game than singles. Physically I think singles is insane - it might be because my footwork is really poor. Also, if people are not used to doubles strategy - it's a really tough to play doubles - singles you have nothing to worry about other than the person across the net - so in that sense it's easier to play. Also really good player probably prefer to play alone than with partner. (some people just don't enjoy team sports)
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    i dont think that either one is superior but i myself prefer singles.... for singles it requires a lot more running around and quicker recovery because theres no one to cover for you. for doubles, team work and coordination is very important or else you will either be hitting each others racquet all the time or theres the hole in the middle where no one gets the bird... i prefer singles because im afraid for my racquet

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    I prefer doubles because it's much more fun playing with 2. Having fun is the most important thing for me in badminton

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    Try getting two good singles players to play doubles against a good doubles team. I would bet on the doubles team to win. As others have mentioned, singles and doubles are very different beasts. Also, it's just a matter of perspective. Everybody has a preference and those preferences are often influenced by their social group and society in general.

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    I honestly think doubles is faster, and harder. The shot selection is very different, and must be faster because less time in between shots. I think that doubles players (the good ones) are much quicker than the good singles players. When endurance isn't a factor, doubles is "harder" to play I think. I personally like singles more cause I suck at doubles. Lack that "killer instinct".

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    Doubles are not inferior. Singles, Doubles, and Mixed Doubles, are all different games together requiring different techniques.

    And if you want to win the Sudirman Cup, you need to win at least one Doubles to win the match. So it would be unfair to call any one particular game inferior.

    And China is now focusing on Doubles too. China had been so behind in MD for many years and now they have Fu/Cai pair so I guess they now realize the importance of Doubles if they haven't before.
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    Not inferior, just different... pace is faster. and four people on court doesn't equate to hitting the ball 50% less.

    for me I prefer doubles, when the rotation is good on both sides, and the skill level is even, you get incredibles rallies, saves and shots.. its like watching a fast paced ballet for me.. the description "poetry in motion" pretty much sums it up..

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    as a spectator, i definitely say that doubles have more spectacle. The game is faster and involves more smashes, drives, tight net shots, etc.

    during the Sudirman Cup final, i was hoping that Indo will at least win one event so that the men double game will proceed. no luck though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamen
    as a spectator, i definitely say that doubles have more spectacle. The game is faster and involves more smashes, drives, tight net shots, etc.

    during the Sudirman Cup final, i was hoping that Indo will at least win one event so that the men double game will proceed. no luck though.

    lol, i was really disappointed too, but seriously, Indonesia never had a chance in the ladies singles. The gap between the 2 players are just too big...

    When Lin Dan beat Taufik, could have guess that MD would not take place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcl49
    Is doubles inferior ?
    No . Singles and doubles are very different from each other and whether we think one is better than the other is just our perception . You can't really compare the two and say this ones better the other . There is a challenging side to both the games . Doubles requires teamwork , contain faster rallies , more smashing ( lose more energy ) while singles require more stamina , good shot selections , tactics , footwork etc . So in conclusion , I'd say there is not really a definite answer to whether one is better than the other ...

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    i prefer doubles or even mixed doubles. more interesting to play as a team and i think physically less demanding.

    Chin

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinek
    i prefer doubles or even mixed doubles. more interesting to play as a team and i think physically less demanding.

    Chin
    Have to disagree with that , for doubles and mixed , there is more smashing involved and the pace of the rally is faster as well . I'd say doubles is even more physically demanding than singles ~!

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    I think the endurance factor is a huge influence in singles though.

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