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    Post Dutch, Taiwan shuttlers may spoil our teamís aim to top Division Two

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    KUALA LUMPUR: National chief coach Yap Kim Hock said yesterday that several Dutch and Taiwanese players might stand in the way of Malaysia topping Division Two of the Sudirman Cup to be held in Beijing from May 10 to 15.

    He said that although the biennial Sudirman Cup followed the team format, the opponents could throw a spanner in Malaysia's hopes of topping Division Two and earning qualification to Division One.

    ďOn paper, Malaysia who are up against the Dutch, Taiwan and Russia in Group A of Division Two, are expected to walk through and meet the champions of Group B in the division,Ē he said yesterday.

    Group B consists of Singapore, Japan, Germany and Ukraine.

    Malaysia's line-up consists of Lee Chong Wei, who is ranked fifth in the world in men's singles, Muhammad Hafiz Hashim (eighth) and Wong Choong Hann (11th), and the pair of Chan Chong Ming-Koo Kien Keat (ranked 14th) for the doubles.

    Wong Mew Choo (56th) will compete in the women's singles, while Chin Eei Hui-Wong Pei Tty (sixth) will do battle in the women's doubles.

    Yap said Dutch singles players Dicky Palyama (20th), Eric Pang (47th) and Taiwanese Liao Sheng-Shiun (84th) were expected to give Malaysia a stiff challenge.

    For the doubles, he said Malaysia would have to watch out for the Dutch pair of Jordy Halaping-Jurgen Wontes (ranked 63rd) and Taiwan's Huang Shih Chung-Chien Yu-Hsun (68th).

    ďFor the women's singles, Malaysia have to take notice of the Dutch duo of Yao Jie who is ranked fourth in the world and Mia Audina who is currently ranked 16th, besides Taiwan's Cheng Shao-Chieh who is ranked 18th,Ē he said.

    Kim Hock said that for the women's doubles, Pei Tty and Eei Hui were expected to face some resistance from the Dutch and Taiwanese pairs.

    He said that based on current rankings, Malaysia's men's singles and doubles, and the women's doubles players should ensure that the team top Group A.

    ďThe Sudirman Cup is also important to the players as it is their last chance to improve their rankings to qualify for the World Championships in Los Angeles next August,Ē he added. Ė Bernama

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    Yap seems to forget about Russia.
    Though Nicolaj Zuev, Marina Yakusheva and Elena Schimko aren't in the team (injured? retired?...), they still have a strong team, they can win their matches from WS, WD and XD...

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    Malaysia will pull this one off. They'll win the WD and XD plus MS, MD. So don't worry be happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by FEND.
    Malaysia will pull this one off. They'll win the WD and XD plus MS, MD. So don't worry be happy
    Which one? What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven
    Which one? What do you mean?
    I mean malaysia . Mr Yap has some tricks up his sleeve. He'll get a royal flush down

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    Quote Originally Posted by FEND.
    I mean malaysia . Mr Yap has some tricks up his sleeve. He'll get a royal flush down
    Winning WD and XD won't be an easy task in any of the three matches.
    Winning WS will be very difficult in all three matches.
    Winning MS and MD shouldn't be a problem in any of the three matches.

    So Malaysia has the edge, but nothing is done...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven
    Winning WD and XD won't be an easy task in any of the three matches.
    Winning WS will be very difficult in all three matches.
    Winning MS and MD shouldn't be a problem in any of the three matches.

    So Malaysia has the edge, but nothing is done...
    Like I said, don't worry be happy. Royal flush will come out .

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    Quote Originally Posted by FEND.
    Like I said, don't worry be happy. Royal flush will come out .
    I'm not worried, I'm neutral anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ants
    For the doubles, he said Malaysia would have to watch out for the Dutch pair of Jordy Halaping-Jurgen Wontes (ranked 63rd) and Taiwan's Huang Shih Chung-Chien Yu-Hsun (68th).

    ďFor the women's singles, Malaysia have to take notice of the Dutch duo of Yao Jie who is ranked fourth in the world and Mia Audina who is currently ranked 16th, besides Taiwan's Cheng Shao-Chieh who is ranked 18th,Ē he said.
    It's Jordy Halapiry & Jurgen Wouters first of all but there's no way malaysia will lose that one but since there are 3 matches out of 5 with women involved it might not matter what the men do against malaysia. Too bad Lotte Bruijl is not around because Mia & Lotte would take the WD, Mia or Yao will take the WS so it would come down to XD, maybe Yao & Dicky or Eric Pang or Jurgen Wouters, who knows what'll happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor
    It's Jordy Halapiry & Jurgen Wouters first of all but there's no way malaysia will lose that one but since there are 3 matches out of 5 with women involved it might not matter what the men do against malaysia. Too bad Lotte Bruijl is not around because Mia & Lotte would take the WD, Mia or Yao will take the WS so it would come down to XD, maybe Yao & Dicky or Eric Pang or Jurgen Wouters, who knows what'll happen
    I reckon malaysia will win 4 matches against the dutch. Don't forget we still have a 'wildcard' to throw in when we're in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven
    Yap seems to forget about Russia.
    Though Nicolaj Zuev, Marina Yakusheva and Elena Schimko aren't in the team (injured? retired?...), they still have a strong team, they can win their matches from WS, WD and XD...
    No offense meant but I think Russia will finish bottom of the group, and I think Malaysia can beat Russia 5-0. I hope you don't think I'm gloating or looking down on other teams. It is just my honest opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FEND.
    I reckon malaysia will win 4 matches against the dutch. Don't forget we still have a 'wildcard' to throw in when we're in trouble.
    It is possible, but that would mean Malaysia have to win all their matches besides the WS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcyong
    No offense meant but I think Russia will finish bottom of the group, and I think Malaysia can beat Russia 5-0. I hope you don't think I'm gloating or looking down on other teams. It is just my honest opinion.
    I think Ella Karachkova is at least as good as Wong Mew Choo, and Anastasia Russkikh in WD and XD is a world class player, but it depends who she will be partnering.
    Russia might finish last, but certainly not without giving up a good fight, I think you are really underestimating them there...
    Maybe Malaysia can beat Russia 5-0 , but Russia can also beat Malaysia 3-2 so the best thing is to wait and see! (that's what sport is all about!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven
    I think Ella Karachkova is at least as good as Wong Mew Choo, and Anastasia Russkikh in WD and XD is a world class player, but it depends who she will be partnering.
    Russia might finish last, but certainly not without giving up a good fight, I think you are really underestimating them there...
    Maybe Malaysia can beat Russia 5-0 , but Russia can also beat Malaysia 3-2 so the best thing is to wait and see! (that's what sport is all about!)
    True true. We'll just chuck WCH in the XD department and let him cook up a storm

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    Yap Kim Hock should not find any excuse if Malaysia fail to advance to Division I. We can blame the players for not being tough mentally(very typical for modern Malaysian players) but if the head coach also having the same attitude before the macth is played then the change has to be from the top, Yap must go!
    Imagine if China head coach Li Yongbo has the same mentallity like Yap, China will not be that strong and most probable will not win the Sudirman. So Yap, put your act together and tell the players advancing to Division I is a "must", not an "option" else might as well send the young team to gain valuable experience. If the top management think is OK to lose given reasonble circumstances then that mentallity triggers downs to the players, is that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Han
    Yap Kim Hock should not find any excuse if Malaysia fail to advance to Division I. We can blame the players for not being tough mentally(very typical for modern Malaysian players) but if the head coach also having the same attitude before the macth is played then the change has to be from the top, Yap must go!
    Imagine if China head coach Li Yongbo has the same mentallity like Yap, China will not be that strong and most probable will not win the Sudirman. So Yap, put your act together and tell the players advancing to Division I is a "must", not an "option" else might as well send the young team to gain valuable experience. If the top management think is OK to lose given reasonble circumstances then that mentallity triggers downs to the players, is that simple.

    Well said Han, very true. If they play to even 75% of their true potential, Malaysia should make it to group 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Han
    Yap Kim Hock should not find any excuse if Malaysia fail to advance to Division I. We can blame the players for not being tough mentally(very typical for modern Malaysian players) but if the head coach also having the same attitude before the macth is played then the change has to be from the top, Yap must go!
    Imagine if China head coach Li Yongbo has the same mentallity like Yap, China will not be that strong and most probable will not win the Sudirman. So Yap, put your act together and tell the players advancing to Division I is a "must", not an "option" else might as well send the young team to gain valuable experience. If the top management think is OK to lose given reasonble circumstances then that mentallity triggers downs to the players, is that simple.
    If I were Yap Kim Hock, I would have said the exact same thing simply because it's true. Malaysia is favourite to go top, but not clear favourites. Before anyone start being complacent, I would remind my players not to take any team for granted.

    Li Yongbo may have the "Jose Mourinho" must-win-everything mentality, yet China does not win everything. I'm sure the Koreans are very mentally strong as well, but they still cannot beat the Chinese.

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