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Thread: Taufik Hidayat's smashes
09-10-2006, 01:12 AM #52
Don't know if this pic is of any help or not...
...just want to share this link/pic with you guys, if you guys haven't seen before..It's an above-the-head pic of Taufik, i'm assuming he's gone airborne(as you can see some shadows on the ground)??...Now, i don't know if he was getting ready to do a smash or another shot??..Hard to tell also the vertical angle of his arm/body, but notice his collective demeanor & his eyes focused on the shuttle..
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=26271 (see post #10)..
Last edited by ctjcad; 09-10-2006 at 01:24 AM.
09-10-2006, 02:17 AM #53Originally Posted by Simp84
12-22-2006, 05:28 PM #54
the feelings..that's what differs.Indos just got the feelings with the ball..coz that's the only thing that they r good of..n best of..
12-22-2006, 05:35 PM #55
Yeah, JR's smashes are extremely hard but FHF has the edge still .
Originally Posted by ChocoChipWaffle
12-22-2006, 07:41 PM #56Originally Posted by Gollum
Last edited by Iwan; 12-22-2006 at 07:51 PM.
12-23-2006, 09:16 AM #57Originally Posted by Stumpy06
i feel it could have to do with the build up of the rally sometimes. what i usually notice is taufik making his opponent move about a lot while he gets to the returns with a lot of ease and can thus put himself in an optimum position to smash
12-23-2006, 10:46 PM #58
tat guy known 4 his backhand killers so lke ya dun try
12-24-2006, 09:22 PM #59Originally Posted by Robin (SWE)
12-25-2006, 06:39 AM #60Originally Posted by the_oro
the thread-starter says TH doesn'tr train seriously (wich he undoubtebly does, Dicking around doesn't produce that kidn of game-pace...)
he says TH isn't strong, wich he probably is, to me he looks like a well trained athlete, he isn't built big, btu defiantly has some shoulder muscles...
then he says it's all about the technique, wich is probably true, partially...
so in a way, what's there to discuss?
12-25-2006, 07:31 AM #61
i guess we just all wanna find out how he does it (technique-wise) so we can all learn from him =D
02-27-2008, 11:30 AM #62
If you know anything about how to train for power you would know that size has nothing to with power output. You need to be looking up about fast twitch muscle fiber recruitment, motor neurons and how muscles actually work.
I can't be bother to go into detail as I could write pages and pages, but when a movement e.g smash is performed (for a normal person) you only use about a 1/3 of the fibers in your arm and the motor neuron firing pattern is sporadic. When one is powerful they use all their motor neurons a once and more like 2/3 of the muscle fibers in their arm.
Types of muscle fibers - type 1 (slow twitch), type 2 slow/fast twitch interchangeable) and type 2b which are the ones which contract around 3 times faster than slow twitch ones
You want to train the type 2b fibers.
Think about basketball players, high / long jumpers, sprinters, javelin and most of all Olympic weightlifters. Men and women at 60kgs can lift like 180kg over their heads.
03-09-2011, 12:04 AM #63
I want to point out that there is a lot of misconceptions about the wrist here. Wrist isn't what it defines if someone's smash is strong or not. If you want to confirm, just hold your racket by it's end and just swing it. The head of the racket turns by itself and the wrist doesn't force the way it turns. That's called pronation and it happens since when you have your arm completely extended when you hit the shuttle, the hand will forcefully have to turn if it wants to be natural. "Wrist" (more the forearm muscles) are the one used when you are late on the shuttle and you can't use your bigger muscles to lead the rest (like a whip).
To come back about the full smash, it starts with the bigger muscles that will eventually make the muscles at the end move. Correct me if I am wrong since I am still a learner and still can't smash correctly.
I need to know what type of grip Taufik is using. He holds the universal way most people learned? More in the palm of his hand or in the tip of his fingers.
04-17-2011, 05:51 PM #64
I think a lot of people over emphasize the wrist as the point for power to the point where many beginners mistake the wrist as the PROVIDER most of the power. This is not true.
Hit with only rotating your arm and your body (keeping your wrist stiff as your can) vs hitting with only flexing and rotating your wrist and I guarantee that you will hit harder and faster with your arm and body. Power comes mostly from your arm. Control comes from your wrist.
Now if you combine the two, most people are able to generate alot of power from their arm, but to get the most out of the stroke, you need to add your wrist as well. This should give you a steeper smash as well as that extra boom at the end of your kinetic chain.
Not saying that wrist don't give you power, just saying that the arm is where a MAJORITY of your power comes from and that some beginners will read "wrist" gives you power, and then try this wrist dominated stroke and hope for success and then they will fail. The wrist follows the ride given by the arm, not the other way around.
04-17-2011, 08:31 PM #65
04-17-2011, 11:01 PM #66
Thanks for rejuvenating a 5 yrs old thread hahaha. No but seriously I think this thread is quite interesting.
04-17-2011, 11:13 PM #67
09-30-2011, 10:43 AM #68
ive been trying to search for this kind of thing too.
my observation shows that it lies in relaxing the body before smashing to the last second and then, bam!
idk how to say this in words, try it out urself.
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