Grand Slam winner

[badadum]

Looks like Surabaya's boy is back.
Just ask LD how important the AG and OG is. Two events that he got 0 (zero) gold medals on.
Ask any badminton player on what the significance of winning the Olympic Gold....yet you dare to say Olympic is a joke???

[Winston_T]

Quotes from 2cents (taken from IBF still thins Lee HI the top player while Chen Hong not)

Smaller scaled means smaller entries. I knew and also said Taufik won Asian games. He needed only 4 matches (think about it one more time, just 4 matches ) to win the Asian games, in fact, which means the best of only 16 players.

Larger scaled tournaments, like all England, used to be more than 80 entries, and at least 6 matches to claim the title. With the introduction of super series, all tournaments become smaller scaled than before, but still larger than Asian games and Olympics.

I really think that my thoughts are so common and natural, although so many people here don't agree. If in any other sports, other than badminton, the more prize money, the more important of the tournament; the more entries, the better of the tournament; the more high ranked players, the higher level of the tournament. How come here in badminton, everything's upside down? Asian game? what a joke!!! without any European players, without world number 2 Chen Hong, without world number 4 Chen Jin, without world number 7 Chen Yu, without Sony, without Roslin, even they are all Asians, but has players playing with Hijab in the top 16! How can you rate such a joke game as the best tournament? Olympic is the same joke but in a little bit larger scale.

Looks like Surabaya's boy is back.
Just ask LD how important the AG and OG is. Two events that he got 0 (zero) gold medals on.
Ask any badminton player on what the significance of winning the Olympic Gold....yet you dare to say Olympic is a joke???

I'm quite agree with 2cents.
this is the Olympic's joke.

MATCHDAY 1 (OG 2004)

Shon SM vs Antti Vittikko 15-12, 15-3
Park TS vs Abhinn G 15-12, 15-0
Peter Gade vs Chien Yu - Hsiu 15-6, 15-1
LHI vs Stuart B 15-3, 15-2
Richard V vs Marco Vasconsellos 15-5, 15-5
Boonsak vs Chris D 15-1, 15-10



consider only 32 MS constestants was allowed to compete in OG, so there are 2 groups in Athens Olympics:
first group consists of top 32 player (if we use the rank date: Aug 12)
second group consists of the player whom are outside top 32

and did u know that: ALL OF THE PLAYER WHOM ARE A MEMBER OF SECOND GROUP LOST IN THE FIRST ROUND, EXCEPT THE MATCH INVOLVING THE SECOND GROUP MEMBER!

that's why I called this is the Olympics joke.
several top 32 players can't participated in OG 04, replaced by several unknown players. as a result, BWF only spent money to give a free trip to them. only needs 30 minutes to play in OG, and then they can go back to their country with a souvenir from Athen!

[Krisna]

it isn't me. read again my post. quotes from 2cents.

I also didn't say it was you in particular, Winston. As for you, I only said that Yang Yang is never a real Olympic champ. 1988 Demonstration Gold does not count towards the GRAND SLAM of badminton. Even the Olympic record keepers think so.

Alan Budi Kusuma is the first real Olympic Badminton MS champ. That happened in Barcelona 1992 when badminton was officially an Olympic sport for the 1st time.

Anyway... if your point is to claim that Yang Yang was an all time great, I agree completely. If you claim that Taufik Hidayat is not another all time great, then I disagree. Taufik will be invited to the BWF Hall of Fame because he is an all-time great.

[Winston_T]

one of the all time greats?
ARE U JOKING?!
almost 2 yrs since his last title in Ina 06.
seems it's very hard for TH to win an int'l title
u still wanna say he is the best?

Oh, by the way, Taufik won the 2007 Asian Championship title in April 2007.... Your claim that Taufik did not win any international title since INA Open 2006 is plainly not true.

ABC is just a regional title. not international title.

int'l title : OG, WC, BWF Final SS, 12 leg of SS, GP Gold, GP
regional title : Asian Games, ABC, European BC

[Cinta_China]

agree with you Winston_T
ABC is just regional tournament.
BTW, taufik won his olympic gold medal on his 2'nd attempt.
taufik failed at his first attempt in sidney...
so don't worry about LIN DAN...
last time in athens was his first attempt...
and it's just a matter of time for LIN DAN to grabs that OLYMPICS GOLD IN BEIJING....
Regards,,,,

[Winston_T]

agree with you Winston_T
ABC is just regional tournament.
BTW, taufik won his olympic gold medal on his 2'nd attempt.
taufik failed at his first attempt in sidney...
so don't worry about LIN DAN...
last time in athens was his first attempt...
and it's just a matter of time for LIN DAN to grabs that OLYMPICS GOLD IN BEIJING....
Regards,,,,

thanx Cinta China.
not only that, TH won his WC's title after 4th attempt.
and, from the total of 6 times participation in WC, he only can win 1 title.

[huangkwokhau]

agree with you Winston_T
ABC is just regional tournament.
BTW, taufik won his olympic gold medal on his 2'nd attempt.
taufik failed at his first attempt in sidney...
so don't worry about LIN DAN...
last time in athens was his first attempt...
and it's just a matter of time for LIN DAN to grabs that OLYMPICS GOLD IN BEIJING....
Regards,,,,

Which one is Jade Imperial now............

[Winston_T]

Anyway... if your point is to claim that Yang Yang was an all time great, I agree completely. If you claim that Taufik Hidayat is not another all time great, then I disagree. Taufik will be invited to the BWF Hall of Fame because he is an all-time great.

according to Wikipedia, Morten Frost Hansen was considered by many peoples as one of the greatest badminton player.
also, by most of BCers, Morten was considered as one of the 4 heavenly kings.
but, he never won OG or WC even once. the only prestigious title that he ever won was AE (4 times).
proved that winning OG or WC doesn't guarantee u could be claim as the greatest.

[Winston_T]

I also didn't say it was you in particular, Winston. As for you, I only said that Yang Yang is never a real Olympic champ. 1988 Demonstration Gold does not count towards the GRAND SLAM of badminton. Even the Olympic record keepers think so.

Alan Budi Kusuma is the first real Olympic Badminton MS champ. That happened in Barcelona 1992 when badminton was officially an Olympic sport for the 1st time.

that's why I called TH as a lucky person.
lucky bcoz:
Yang Yang never win the real OG gold
several tricky opponents were absence in OG 04
only 2 titles, and he was considered as the greatest.

[huangkwokhau]

that's why I called TH as a lucky person.
lucky bcoz:
Yang Yang never win the real OG gold
several tricky opponents were absence in OG 04
only 2 titles, and he was considered as the greatest.

Yeah...all non chinese players won because they are lucky...pls stop pretending you are chinese from china......

[Winston_T]

Yeah...all non chinese players won because they are lucky...pls stop pretending you are chinese from china......

I never said Poul Erik can win the OG golds in 1996 due to luck
I never said Peter Rasmussen, Joko Suprianto, Heryanto Arbi won the WC title due to luck.

[badMania]

Which one is Jade Imperial now............

I look forward to see the moderators taking action now

[Winston_T]

I look forward to see the moderators taking action now

before this thread was closed, I'm waiting for your comments about this:

according to Wikipedia, Morten Frost Hansen was considered by many peoples as one of the greatest badminton player.
also, by most of BCers, Morten was considered as one of the 4 heavenly kings.
but, he never won OG or WC even once. the only prestigious title that he ever won was AE (4 times).
proved that winning OG or WC doesn't guarantee u could be claim as the greatest.

[Krisna]

ABC is just a regional title. not international title.

int'l title : OG, WC, BWF Final SS, 12 leg of SS, GP Gold, GP
regional title : Asian Games, ABC, European BC

agree with you Winston_T
ABC is just regional tournament.
BTW, taufik won his olympic gold medal on his 2'nd attempt.
taufik failed at his first attempt in sidney...
so don't worry about LIN DAN...
last time in athens was his first attempt...
and it's just a matter of time for LIN DAN to grabs that OLYMPICS GOLD IN BEIJING....
Regards,,,,

Please refer to your dictionaries on the definition of 'international'...

[badMania]

Please refer to your dictionaries on the definition of 'international'...

Look's like you are getting embroiled with Winston too

[Oldhand]

Cinta_China is banned.
It means Jade Imperial too is banned

[badMania]

Cinta_China is banned.
It means Jade Imperial too is banned

I sense that the 3 users (2 already banned) are probably the same guy too