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    Wasn't sure if this belonged here or in the other forum for Rules/Officialing.

    Players keep citing me on old rules, and claiming that I'm playing a faulted shot.

    This includes:
    - Following through on the shuttle to play a kill when the opponent is not at the net. (I therefore did not obstruct the opponent.)
    - Serving with the racket head closer to horizontal, with the head not entirely below the handle, but still in a downward direction.
    - Leg going under the net, again, not obstructing the opponent.
    - In doubles, playing a service to the outside tram lines, and in singles, to the far tram line.

    How do I deal with players insisting on these rules? I have seen all of the above played in official tournaments of varying levels, with a dedicated umpire, that has not faulted the players. I have checked the rules, and am confident I have followed them suitably.

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    Deal with it when? At tournament? Then get the referee.

    Deal with it at club? Show them the rules on your mobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amleto View Post
    Deal with it when? At tournament? Then get the referee.

    Deal with it at club? Show them the rules on your mobile.
    In clubs mainly, it's difficult because it feels like I'm being accused of cheating, and if I insist on showing them, it feels like I'm being a stickler for the rules.

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    they're the ones bringing up the rules. Inform them they're wrong. If they insist then request them to put up or shut up (prove it)

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    i used to carry a printed copy of the rules with me. haven't done that for a while but probably not a bad idea in your case!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    i used to carry a printed copy of the rules with me. haven't done that for a while but probably not a bad idea in your case!
    This is what I'm thinking of doing... It's mainly older players, people that have been playing for a lot longer than I have, and it's uncomfortable.

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    have you tried simply stating that the rules are now different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amleto View Post
    have you tried simply stating that the rules are now different?
    I have tried to explain that what they're saying is based off of an old version of the rules, but with little success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amleto View Post
    Deal with it when? At tournament? Then get the referee.

    Deal with it at club? Show them the rules on your mobile.
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie-SWUK View Post
    I have tried to explain that what they're saying is based off of an old version of the rules, but with little success.
    Quote Originally Posted by amleto View Post
    Show them the rules on your mobile.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    lol. are they still playing 15 points, setting at 13-13?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    lol. are they still playing 15 points, setting at 13-13?
    No they use the new scoring system, but it's other rules they don't seem to be aware of, which is unfortunate.

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    If it's just at club, I would normally not bother and just carry on playing.

    If it happens at a tournament, that's when you whip out the rule book.

    I never get this thing happening to me. Is it an English thing?

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    doesn't matter actually if they are consistent. it's difficult when it's a mix. I use a somewhat 15 point old scoring rule, but it's up to 30 and change court if a pair reaches 15 first.

    The one I don't get that I was told that my service was fault because the racket head was pointing upwards, but then they serve high, almost up to their neck. there was also the rare case that a shot was called out when it just hit the line.

    just need more consistency, there are people who use the old rules, especially scoring system, but I think the other rules beside the scoring should refer to the newest one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie-SWUK View Post
    ....
    Players keep citing me on old rules, and claiming that I'm playing a faulted shot.

    This includes:
    - Following through on the shuttle to play a kill when the opponent is not at the net. (I therefore did not obstruct the opponent.)
    - Serving with the racket head closer to horizontal, with the head not entirely below the handle, but still in a downward direction.
    - Leg going under the net, again, not obstructing the opponent.
    - In doubles, playing a service to the outside tram lines, and in singles, to the far tram line.

    .....
    This one shows you opponents aren't to be taken seriously! But sometimes we invent such restrictions for training purposes.

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    Like kwun, I carry a printed copy of the rules in my bag for such purposes. But some of these are subjective and borderline calls. And then there are some inane ones.

    I've had one person (but no one ekse) always accusing me of moving before he serves... but I told him I'm allowed to move my arms and upper body, only the legs that are supposed to stay still on the ground, which they are. But despite showing him the rules, he insists on his interpretation that I'm supposed be immobile before he serves. Needles to say I never played him again after that.

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