Thread: Common Misconceptions
09-16-2005, 02:28 AM #18Originally Posted by samtruong200
09-16-2005, 02:45 AM #19Originally Posted by Neil Nicholls
Though the misconception is popular: http://westlake.k12.oh.us/hilliard/w...nton_rules.htm #3
09-16-2005, 03:08 AM #20Originally Posted by OTFK
09-16-2005, 07:42 AM #21Originally Posted by jump_smash
u have to have the shuttle in unobstructed view to the receiver from when u hit it (ie cant stand behind your mixed lady partner and serve so that it goes behind her (from the receivers POV)
09-16-2005, 11:42 AM #22
How about this?
I saw a girl turn her back to the net to serve.
The shuttle is in clear view --- she holds it out with her left hand, but the racquet is not, until a split second before the shuttle is struck.
I suppose if it is legal people should/would not be doing it. How on earth is the server going to return a net shot reply to the serve?
09-16-2005, 01:00 PM #23Originally Posted by cheongsa
Read the rules and find a loophole, it will be to your advantages.
Quite a few years ago, the Chinese was serving back hand double serve. Instead of hitting the cork of the shuttle, they were hitting the feather instead. This made the flight path of the shuttle very "unstable" and the receivers had a hard to time to jump the serve. Well, the rule of badminton was changed - now you cannot hit the feather on serve. The Chinese found the loophole and enjoyed the advantage for a bit.
As your teacher will say, it pays to read.
09-16-2005, 02:10 PM #24Originally Posted by OTFK
09-16-2005, 05:20 PM #25
Good info, thanks. I didn't know about the one about the Bathroom break.
09-19-2005, 03:32 AM #26Originally Posted by other
09-19-2005, 03:38 AM #27Originally Posted by OTFK
Frank firstly point out the rule on seeing the shuttle clearly!
Secondly , what you are refering to is the S serve or sometimes crocodile,
(see Han's article http://www.badmintoncentral.com/badm...nt/view/20/26/)
the rules actually state your first contact has to be with the base (cork)) 9.1.4.
Last edited by jump_smash; 09-19-2005 at 03:44 AM.
09-19-2005, 04:22 AM #28
The only rule I know of about being able to see the shuttle relates to the service
9.7 In doubles, the partners may take up any positions which do not unsight the opposing server or receiver.
09-19-2005, 12:12 PM #29Originally Posted by jump_smash
As Neil Nicholls points out Rule 9.7 is the one that I am referring to. The receiver should be able to see the shuttle. This rule is "more important" in doubles as the partner can block the view on the shuttle completely.
Yes, currently Rule 9.1.4 states the base of the cork mus be the first contact point in the serve. However, back in the 1970s (if I recalled correctly), there was no mention about the base of the cork to be the first point of contact. That was how the Chinese explored the loophole.
09-19-2005, 12:22 PM #30Originally Posted by OTFK
only that server's partner cannot block the receiver's view.
It appears to be perfectly legal for the server to block the receiver's view.
It's another matter again if there is a service judge, because if the server unsights the service judge then a let probably has to be called.
09-19-2005, 02:14 PM #31Originally Posted by manduki
I remember hearing in a dvd about a new law (From 04 i think) that its okay for your foot to go under the net now. I believe it was gade vs LD AE 04 final where i heard it.
as for lunging at teh serve, you can always do it after they hit the bird ;P
does anyone know when the start of the serve is? I believe it is when the forward motion begins, not at the contact point.
09-19-2005, 02:19 PM #32Originally Posted by Neil Nicholls
The server can use the hand (the one holding onto the shuttle) to cover the entire shuttle. However, as soon as the shuttle leaves the server's hand, the shuttle will be spotted.
I do not think any server will turn around (i.e. facing the baseline) and serve in an attempt to block the receiver from view the shuttle.
If the receiver believes the shuttle is blocked, he/she can choose to play a let (even without a service judge present). I have seen this in a competition before. Then the tournament organizer has to made a call on the blocking the sight of the shuttle.
09-19-2005, 02:32 PM #33Originally Posted by TrunkZ69
Rule 9.4 Once the players have taken their positions, the first forward movement of the serverís racket head shall be the start of the service.
In case anyone is wondering:
Rule 9.5 Once started (Law 9.4), the service is delivered when the shuttle is hit by the serverís racket or, in attempting to serve, the server misses the shuttle.
I have included the link from IBF on the Law of Badminton.
Law of Badminton
For the "invasion" of the opponent's court, read Rule 13.4
09-19-2005, 02:38 PM #34Originally Posted by OTFK
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