View Poll Results: Which scoring system do you prefer?
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Old 15x3 service based scoring
New 21x3 rally based scoring
12-20-2005, 03:26 PM #171Originally Posted by taneepak
here is the math:
if u serve a perfect tight serve, the receiver can still return a neutral reply
if u serve into the net, your partner and coach will hate u
if u serve conservatively, the worst scenario is a attack return drive which you and your partner still have a good chance returning it and resume rallying.
Unlike tennis, a perfect serve is an ACE---> a point
in badminton, a perfect serve only give u a neutral return shot(no guarantee of a point).
Unlike tennis, u can serve conservatively on your 2nd serve (if u miss the 1st serve)
In badminton, if u miss the 1st serve, u lose a point---> baddddddd
Last edited by cooler; 12-20-2005 at 03:36 PM.
12-20-2005, 03:33 PM #172Originally Posted by cooler
12-20-2005, 03:41 PM #173
as mentioned by some others, extending the rear double service line to the back would create a more neutral position for both sides AND make the game easier to understand for new tv audience.
12-20-2005, 03:44 PM #174Originally Posted by cooler
12-20-2005, 03:52 PM #175
for 15x3 system (not 21 rally point system)
how about this service proposal for doubles:
1. side won the rally get to serve once
2. partner rotate on service after winning the next rally(ie, if player A served first. Next rally won the serve goes to player B)
3. serve from the side base on score, even on right and odd number on left.
simple isnt it?
In tight games like 14-13 or a set to 3 point, i feel the side that got the rally back has extra advantage under the 15x3 system, they have 2 chances to serve and get 1 more point to win at 15-13 or get 3 points on a set. If we change to a 1 serve per rally won, it would create more tense duels and better chance of a come back.
12-20-2005, 03:55 PM #176Originally Posted by DinkAlot
12-20-2005, 04:10 PM #177
would there be a situation in doubles matches where a weaker or new player that has a poor serve, could wind up serving out the entire game and match? given only 1 serve per side, if your team never gets off the odd or even, you could wind up having the bad server serve out the entire game.
this would make new comers to the game even more paranoid. not everyone will decide or take the time to improve their service skills, and this could prove a frustration for new players, which the new system was intended to draw in?
Last edited by badrad; 12-20-2005 at 04:13 PM.
12-20-2005, 04:15 PM #178Originally Posted by cooler
12-20-2005, 04:17 PM #179Originally Posted by badrad
under the existing 15x3, if u constantly cant score, the same players keep serving to the same opponents at score 0, you have a situation that is truly stagnant. Under my proposal, when the next rally won, the player B get to serve. If player B is better, they can get some point. At least, it take only 1 winning rally to get the serve back. If one team dominates, under 2 serve per side system, they can be way ahead before the weaker team get to serve.
Last edited by cooler; 12-20-2005 at 04:26 PM.
12-20-2005, 04:20 PM #180Originally Posted by DinkAlot
Last edited by cooler; 12-20-2005 at 04:27 PM.
12-20-2005, 07:08 PM #181
This is just my opinion, please bit my head off if you want.
New system will tilt the game to the advance player. More likly a game between a B vs C level players (assumig B is better), B level player will kill C player at 21 to 5. Also, If I am the C player, I will be forced to serve high and long because I can not take a chance of screw up on short serve. Guess what, I will have to make sure my serve does not go long. Next thing I know, I am getting smashe to death on every serve and lower level player will get discuraged. Beginner will always get killed. Is this the way to promote a great gentalmsn/ladies game? I don't think so. I have alway thought Badminton is a game of setting a fair playing field, give a weaker player a chance to win. If IBF want to see faster game, why not just use plastic shuttle in international match? I think the game will be faster. I will still play 15X3 in the future even if IBF outlaw my beloved 15X3.
12-20-2005, 07:27 PM #182Originally Posted by badrad
12-20-2005, 07:39 PM #183Originally Posted by taneepak
since the person serving stays in the same place when they lose the serve they will automatically be on the wrong side to be serving when you win the serve back. simple eh?
12-20-2005, 07:58 PM #184
i guess it would be exciting to see a match end on a service fault...
12-20-2005, 11:09 PM #185
Hopefully IBF to stop this 3x21 rally pts, and not implement it anymore.
Badminton will loose the part of interesting of the match.
12-21-2005, 12:21 AM #186Originally Posted by badrad
12-21-2005, 12:35 AM #187
I have been trying out the new system for a few days now, all doubles. It is very easy to adjust to it. I believe the scores now more accurately reflect the actual proceedings of each game. Some players, especially those who never play singles get a bit lost about why they have to start their serve from the odd side when there is a service change. One thing is certain. The game is faster now.
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