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  • Old 15x3 service based scoring

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  • New 21x3 rally based scoring

    145 20.11%
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaN_fAn
    Coaches like yourself and Proffesional players are the ones whose advise can be given more weightage and importance.in any case we cant have Everyone giving their feedback to the IBF.
    But why are they more weight and importance? Why should only a few chosen elite players be consulted?

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    Well atleast it's a start,it's better than nothing.

    Getting back to the topic-while playing today with the rally point System i noticed that it tends to put a lot of pressure and excitement while playing on the players.while someone mentioned that players will play more conservatively and there will be longer rallies,i argue saying that there will be the temptation of getting a quick point by hitting a winner.so over all i think the balance will be just right and preserved and if anything the game will only look better.... and in my view the kind of pressure and excitement this scoring creates is just unbeatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4MadMan
    I'm curious, what's your style of play?
    Ok, well I wouldn't be the type of player who hits many outright winners from deep in the court. Most of my points would be won by moving my opponent around and getting good angles on the shuttle. I like a fast tempo and generally the longer rallies go on the better things are for me. I think the old system allows you to be very aggressive when you are serving as if you go for a winner and miss the score doesn't change. Hence the old system seems to suit explosive players more. Obviously being able to score on either serve puts more emphasis on consistancy. So I think the new system wouldn't bother me too much.

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    service overs are a unique part of badminton! i don't wanna lose it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanatico
    service overs are a unique part of badminton! i don't wanna lose it!
    Agree; about a week ago my partner and I came back from being down 2-14 and won it 17-16 saving 5 game points. About 3 days ago, my partner and I were down 11-14 and saved 9 game points winning 17-15.

    With the "ping-pong" scoring, this could have never happened.

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    i personally voted for the new system because i dont have much endurance...and of course people want to play at their best and in some case people want to face their opponent at their best too

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    Quote Originally Posted by hahahalol
    i personally voted for the new system because i dont have much endurance...
    If you put it this way, maybe I should change my vote to the new system too.

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    I think people are forgetting why IBF is looking at changing the scoring system.

    Objectives of a new scoring system:

    (1) Produce more critical points and hence more exciting matches, thus improving appeal on TV and to spectators

    (2) Create new interest in the game

    (3) Reduce most match lengths compared to the present system, reducing physical demands (slightly less pressure on players) and reducing TV and potentially spectator session lengths

    (4) Offer more opportunities for TV to have commercial and in-depth analysis breaks during a match

    Produce a system that spectators find easier to follow

    IMHO the bottom line is to attract TV viewers & sponsors. If these changes are the tip of the iceberg that finally creates the $1,000,000 - $15,000,000 purse money, would you still stick to 3x15 point system?

    Interms of (3) I would think it would challenge the players more since there are a finite number of serves/rallies...

    1) players must play safer shots with longer rallies
    2) expend more energy per rally/set

    Cheers!

    Last edited by Break-My-String; 09-25-2005 at 02:46 AM.

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    Is there any guarantee that changing the scoring format (again ) will attract more sponsors and viewers?? Changing for the sake of changing, and not at least knowing what to expect just makes it confusing not only to coaches/players who need to adapt to new systems (technically and physically) but also to spectators. There are people still asking for deuce when reaching 13 all in doubles.

    I see many people playing badminton with great interest. Most of them book courts weekly on regular basis to play and have their own groups of players. Interestingly enough, many participate in tournaments but never seen them watching any badminton or tournament videos either. Why? If IBF is able to make these people go to watch the tournaments or watch them on TV they would have any reason to complain.

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    shorter scoring failed before..remeber the world-top Men's double? 10 minutes at most...

    and why the f*ck do they want to lower the scoring so that you don't need that much endurance...that's really, really dumb...why not shorten a marathon?

    badminton IS exciting, it's shorter, and more explosive than Tennis..it tops almost ALL sports in specatcle..

    the problem is not teh game, it's the public..people just don't know what badminton is..and when it's on TV people can't follow it.

    there should be more, and more experienced cameramen...not making live shows. but cutting and pasting too make it a spectacle..

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    I'm voting for the new scoring. It would be easier to would tire my oppnonent in a game. Also, I have more time to find weakpoints in my opponent's style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith_aquino
    I'm voting for the new scoring. It would be easier to would tire my oppnonent in a game. Also, I have more time to find weakpoints in my opponent's style.
    Errrr...how would the new scoring tire out your opponent more/faster? The games would be much faster if every serve scored a point regardless of who's serving.

    Am I missing something here? If so, please enlighten, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4MadMan
    The games would be much faster if every serve scored a point regardless of who's serving.
    Okay, that one I did not read about. My mistake
    If that is the case, I'd vote for the old system. At least the sport will be unique among the other racquet sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith_aquino
    Okay, that one I did not read about. My mistake
    If that is the case, I'd vote for the old system. At least the sport will be unique among the other racquet sports.
    No worries Keith. Let's just hope the old system stays.

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    I remember reading a day or two ago that as far as the experimentation is concerned, Asia will be trying the 21x3 format and European countries have been asked by the IBF to experiment with the 11x5 system.I think these experiments are first to be tested domestically[nationally] before they are tried in Grand Prix tourneys.so i dont think there should be any changes in the scoring for the Denmark Open this month.

    As far as India is concerned the 21x3 scoring is aldready being tried in the state and national events.
    So has the 11x5 scoring being tried yet in European Nations in the domestic events?Could somebody give the feedback on this?

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    Just look at squash, it went from service point to rally point.

    Did it produce more critical points - No
    Did it create new interest in the game - Can't really see that
    Did it reduce most match lengths - Not at the elite level ( of course, squash has 'let', badminton doesn't )
    Did it reduce physical demand - Definitely not. Everybody knows this is a joke from those who don't play badminton, at least not seriously. Which sport would want to be labelled as one that doesn't require its players to be at their top form giving out all they have? May be those sitting in the IBF office want to ...
    Did it produce a system easier to follow - May be. But most at the club level or play for fun still play service point

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    received yesterday from a french badminton webzine (www.badzine.info):
    " Selon l'Agence de Presse Xinhua, dans un communiqué de ce 27 octobre, la Fédération Internationale aurait opté pour un nouveau système de scoring , dès le mois de décembre prochain, et à valoir pour le début de l'année 2006 sur les compétitions internationales.

    Article : Raphael Sachetat

    Cela pendait au nez du badminton depuis quelques temps. Selon un haut responsable du badminton Chinois cité par l'Agence Officielle Chinoise Xinhua, l'IBF serait donc sur le point d'officialiser le changement de scoring, pour un format en trois sets de 21 points (deux sets gagnants), avec point marqué quelque soit le serveur, et quelque soit la catégorie.

    D'après les calculs de l'IBF sur les statistiques menées jusqu'à présent, cela réduirait le temps de match en moyenne d'environ un tiers.

    Reste à attendre l'annonce officielle émanant de l'IBF pour ce changement de scoring, qui devrait, dans la foulée, impliquer un changement vraisemblable en France.

    Badzine se fera l'échos des commentaires des représenants français une fois l'annonce faite de manière officielle."




    For those who can't speak french, in short: IBF is probably going to officialize the new scoring system (3x21) . It should be done for next december, and applied in international events in 2006.

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