Lets vote for New or Old point system.

[terry]

For those who can't speak french, in short: IBF is probably going to officialize the new scoring system (3x21) . It should be done for next december, and applied in international events in 2006.

Its a bad news. I dun think this new systme point will last long.

[sjoe]

shorter scoring failed before..remeber the world-top Men's double? 10 minutes at most...

and why the f*ck do they want to lower the scoring so that you don't need that much endurance...that's really, really dumb...why not shorten a marathon?

badminton IS exciting, it's shorter, and more explosive than Tennis..it tops almost ALL sports in specatcle..

the problem is not teh game, it's the public..people just don't know what badminton is..and when it's on TV people can't follow it.

there should be more, and more experienced cameramen...not making live shows. but cutting and pasting too make it a spectacle..

I absolutely agree with you. Volleyball and Table tennis change for the same reasons since the Olympic 2000 in Sydney. At that time Badminton also to 5x7 points. And still no increase in TV coverages both Volleyball, Tabletennis and Badminton.
If anything, it should be 1 to 30 points with no setting and normal service rules, change over at 15 points, game will only to 21 if opponent can't get more than 10 points.

[dpc1l]

I like the old system better - I think it is an easier system for a player to stage a comeback, which I think makes good viewing.

Slightly off topic here:
I agree with the point someone made earlier that to increase TV coverage, the filming needs to be addressed. Tennis matches look much more exciting on TV than badminton matches, but in real life, they're both exciting to watch. It's very difficult for non-badminton players to get a sense the speed and agility involved from filmed badminton matches - the courts look small and easy to cover, and smashes don't seem that impressive.

[cooler]

UPDATED: 07:52, October 27, 2005
New scoring system to debut at Badminton World Cup 2005

The International Badminton Federation (IBF) will apply the new scoring system in the Badminton World Cup 2005 to be held in December at Yiyang, central China's Hunan Province.

The new scoring system will come into effect in the World Cup, to be held from December 15-18, and will be applied to all the other international events starting from next year, China's State General Administration of Sport said at a press conference here on Wednesday.

"The new rules will make matches faster and would also cut the duration of tournaments," said Liu Fengyan, director of the administration's Table Tennis & Badminton Administrative Center.

Under the new system, each rally will be awarded a point, while the current system awards one point only to the serving player who wins a rally.

The new rules also adopts a format of best-of-three games and a 21-point system for all the events. Currently, a winner is decided after 15 points for men's singles, men's and women's doubles and mixed doubles with 11 points for women's singles.

"According to the IBF statistics, the new rules will shorten the duraton of the games by one third of time,"said Liu.

The World Cup, with a total prizemoney of 250,000 US dollars on offer this year, will feature players ranked among the top 16 for men's singles, top 12 for women's singles, top eight for men's doubles and top six for both women's doubles and mixed doubles.

Source: Xinhua

[CWB001]

UPDATED: 07:52, October 27, 2005

The new scoring system will come into effect in the World Cup, to be held from December 15-18, and will be applied to all the other international events starting from next year, China's State General Administration of Sport said at a press conference here on Wednesday.

"The new rules will make matches faster and would also cut the duration of tournaments," said Liu Fengyan, director of the administration's Table Tennis & Badminton Administrative Center.


Source: Xinhua

What has this got to do with the China State General Administration of Sport? They do not control badminton - or do they?

[GunBlade008]

I don't think I can adapt to this new style of play. Serving is supposed to be sacred!(If you catch my drift)

[cooler]

What has this got to do with the China State General Administration of Sport? They do not control badminton - or do they?

the article about implementing the new scoring system at the 2005 world cup

[CWB001]

the article about implementing the new scoring system at the 2005 world cup

Er, yes.

That article says that China's State General Administration of Sport is announcing the change.

The question is why is that organisation laying down the new law - why not the IBF?

[cooler]

Er, yes.

That article says that China's State General Administration of Sport is announcing the change.

The question is why is that organisation laying down the new law - why not the IBF?

please re-read the first sentence of the first paragraph of that article.

[Boy@n]

I think the main reason for this change is because of easier "prediction" of game duration... Much easier for TV stations to make programm schedules.

This happened the same in volleyball. In volleyball most of players were against this change, but now most say it's better. Game is more exciting, more dynamic, more adrenaline, because you have to be focused all the time at your max, with losing just the serve it allowed one to get bit "lazy" sometimes....

The reason I think this is better, it's that EVERY point is equally important, and thus every rally should be awarded with a point if won.

[ViningWolff]

I really don't care what the point system is... arguments can be made for both sides.

I've been poking around the internet to get some clarification ont he srve rules for the new 3 x 21 with not a lot of success.

I understand rally point, however, regarding the serve - as those here undetsand it, will it simply be whoever scored the last point gets/retains serve?

I feel rally point will put a lot of pressure on the server now. I'll probably test the new system out the next week or two as practice.

[other]

I feel rally point will put a lot of pressure on the server now. I'll probably test the new system out the next week or two as practice.

indeed 1 hit can let the opponents gain 1 point....lots of pressure on the server..maybe we will be seeing more flick serves

[cxytdn]

I really don't care what the point system is... arguments can be made for both sides.

I've been poking around the internet to get some clarification ont he srve rules for the new 3 x 21 with not a lot of success.

I understand rally point, however, regarding the serve - as those here undetsand it, will it simply be whoever scored the last point gets/retains serve?

I feel rally point will put a lot of pressure on the server now. I'll probably test the new system out the next week or two as practice.

like volleyball.....

[ViningWolff]

Trying to make sense of the new scoring in doubles was interesting to say the least


We've come to the conclusion that it made most sense that players simply stay in their service side - it is brutal to try and keep track if you have to move with each point. Dunno if any of you have tried it, but it's nightmare.

My opponent is serving to me on the even side. He serves short, so we get the point. Me and my partner so I'm on the odd side - and I get to receive serve again? Huh?

I dunno, the singles made sense - the doubles could be a gong show.

Anyone else?

[m_poppema]

Sorry, I'm just sooo mad....why change our beloved sport

[cooler]

Chinese badminton coach criticizes new scoring rules



A Chinese coach has expressed concern that the new scoring system to be adopted by the International Badminton Federation (IBF) would make the doubles events less spectacular.

"The change is designed to shorten the duration of the game so as to be friendly to the live broadcast, but it will bear great influence on the game, especially the doubles, "Li Yongbo, head coach of the Chinese national team, was quoted as saying on Monday's China Sports Daily.

"The new rules would undermine the beauty of the doubles competition. It is unwise for the IBF to adopt the changes without adequate evaluation beforehand."

Under the new system, each rally will be awarded a point, while the current system awards one point only to the serving player who wins a rally.

The news rules also adopt a format of best-of-three games and a 21-point system for all the events. Currently, a winner is decided after 15 points for men's singles, men's and women's doubles and mixed doubles with 11 points for women's singles.

However, Li showed confidence in his squad to well adapt to the new rules which will come into effect at the World Cup to be held in China next month.

"Despite the new rules, China will keep their leading position in world badminton," he said.

Source: Xinhua

[DinkAlot]

Trying to make sense of the new scoring in doubles was interesting to say the least

Tried it for 5-10 minutes a few weeks back and we all agreed:

Unless the IBF comes full force with the National Guard, we ain't changin'.