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Thread: eye speed/sharingan
09-28-2005, 03:05 AM #1
Does anyone have any experience in improvement in speed that led you to seeing the shuttle slower, I mean, sometimes when i play with more advance players and they thunder down a smash, its like i cant even see the shuttle, but I m sure people at higher level can block those smash and they can probably see the shuttle, so i mean is it true that improvement in speed can also make u see things slower coz i m sure its not just my muscles cant react to it, its like i cant even see the bird..what u guys think?
09-28-2005, 03:46 AM #2
it's about reflex (both eyes and hand). Often, I just need to see the moment when the shuttle is hit (no need to travel long) and I have the sense where the shuttle is going to land, and stretch my hand for a stroke.
Personally, power in smash is more terrified than the speed, as the next response is easy to kill. That's just my opinion.
09-28-2005, 03:48 AM #3Originally Posted by SmashingBird
Well i think that, in order to increase your eyespeed, you must play very often against those more advanced players. eventually, you will see those smashes, and learn how to defend yourself against it. i think that you have about 2 dots in your sharingan eyes. When playing more and more against these players, the third dot will appear slowly
And if you kill your best friend, you are able to use the Mangekyou Sharingan. just put an illusion onto your oppenents, that they are being beaten by a 3year old kiddy :P
but without jokin now, i really think you will improve it, by playing against players who are better than you.
09-28-2005, 04:44 AM #4
Another thing is you have to focus. I know this sounds stupid but actually watch the shuttle. If you play baseball its like that. The easiest way is to have someone who is decent at throwing, throw the ball fast at you while you catch it. Depending on how fast of a thrower he is, depends on how far you should stand away. Hockey goalies and baseball catchers have unnatural speed in their eye movement so you could try googling it. Or you can just have fun and bat while your friend throws.
09-28-2005, 04:49 AM #5
No other way but to get used to the new speed. Once you get used to the faster speed, all other exchange will seem slow.
09-28-2005, 06:13 AM #6Originally Posted by MouZe
09-28-2005, 06:50 AM #7
Three good ways to improve your hand-eye coordination, reflexes, as well as eye speed:
1) Hit a shuttle against a wall. Start higher, head height or higher. This should be no problem. Then go to between eye-level to waist, this will be much harder and the shuttle will move faster. Once you master this, go to waist level and below and the shuttle will move fast and you'll need fast reflexes to keep the shuttle from hitting the ground.
2) Just about everyone can clear. When warming up with your partner, focus most of your time on driving the shuttle back and forth. Go faster and faster.
3) Find a person with a strong smash and practice returning it. I did this with my coach who has a Professional Level smash and got used to it so now I'm not afraid of any one's smash (OK, haven't played Fu Hai Feng yet. ). I may not be able to return all the smashes but I'm definitely not afraid of the smashes and am used to the speed.
Hope this helps.
09-28-2005, 12:24 PM #8
well i m pretty sure yeah practising more and playing more with faster players can increase my speed and reflexes but what I really want to know is has anyone ever gone from slow to fast and now things appear in slow motion to them, like everything in this world. I heard F1 racers see things in slow motion after being in a car at such a high velocity and I m wondering if its possible for humans to achieve that, sorta like freezing the world around you.
I just finished watching a game between fu/cai vs. sigit/candra and some shots I cant even see and thats on video, imagine in person how do they react to it, its like they move before the opposition even hits the shot, do high level badminton players possesse the sharingan ability?
09-28-2005, 12:38 PM #9
and angle has got to do a lot with it..
if someone smashes hard at my partner, i see it from the sideways. and i sometimes fail to see it. but if he smashes just as hard towards me, it's a lot easier to see...
but as they all say, practise and patientence..
my reflexes are now fast enough to see stuff my classmates can't see.
sometimes i even surpise myself with my reflexes. like i soemtimes intercept a (bad) lob. i realize i did i when i already hit it...
09-28-2005, 02:24 PM #10
If ur opponent aint got a steep smash then you could stand about a few feet behind where u originally stand so the bird travels more distance so slows down.
Hopefully u will be able to return some.
10-01-2005, 10:07 PM #11
the exact oposite happan for me... like when i watch pros smash i can kinda see the bird, but when i play against them, its like when they smash the bird slows down but my muscles just dont move when i want them to move, i think its cause my racquet it heavier (i switch from 3u to 2u) and my arm gets tired more quickly. also sometimes it can trick your brain. ex) when someone smashes away from you it seems faster, but when he smashes directly at you, it kinda looks like the bird isnt going anywhere and is going slower... get what i mean?
10-01-2005, 10:47 PM #12
I reckon adrenalin plays a major part in this..
10-02-2005, 02:36 PM #13
the more relaxed you are the better your defence will be. Ever notice that sometimes the facial expressions of many Asian players are so relaxed? Being relaxed when you play is very very difficult to do at first and is pretty much impossible until your footwork has developed. Its very difficult to relax your mind and keep your muscles ready to explode...Anyways, returning hard smashes there are three main points in which to remember.
1. Relax - the more relaxed the better the footwork but keep your body ready to explode to the shot.
2. Anticipation - watch some international games, the player on defense almost always has moved so that they are closer to one side of the court than the other. They do this by watching the way the opponent has moved under the bird and by watching the opponents hips / racket. There is then the most natural direction in which the opponent may or may not smash and that is the side they have cheated towards. Remeber, if your opponent smashes cross court you will have slightly more time to get to the shot. (unless your at a very elite level and they can hugely angle the stroke)
3. Footwork - if your lifting off of a good net shot and your opponent is going to smash get back to the middle of the court (lengthwise) as fast as possible. This will give you more time to prepare for the next incoming shot. Then your leg base should be as far apart as you can comfortable go without sacraficing explosive power. If your opponent has a boomer your going to have to try to guess at least a little which side he is going to attack. If they smash to your dominant side lunge with your dominant leg, diving is ok too. If they smash to your backhand side, depending on your size and the placement of the smash, lunge with your non-dominant leg if the shot is close to you, and your dominant leg if the shot is too far to reach with ur non-dominant leg.
WOW sorry if thats incoherent. I just got up and can't really think clearly --
if u have any questions just post them. I've learned the stuff above from watching international footage, playing [Canadian...] international players and talking to my [former number 1 in the world] coach. I hope this helps you out!
I've read that pretty much everyones reaction speed is close to the same. Its mostly just the time it takes your brain to analyze the situation, each time your brain has to analyze the same defensive situation the neural pathways are reinforced by the signal (which carries calcium or something) and strengthens your ability to react.... apparently; i read that in Time or some magazine like that.
Last edited by Eurasian =--(O); 10-02-2005 at 02:39 PM.
10-02-2005, 04:15 PM #14
Well said Eurasian, but I think your missing one of the most vital points when returning smashes. For returning smashes, and any other shot for that matter, you must be prepared with confidence. I find that confidence is the key to playing well and if you are confident with your abilities, returning smashes should be a sinch.
10-04-2005, 11:30 PM #15
very very well said Eurasian. this will help me with my game now, since my defense is okay. please PM me all the threads you replied on, all your tips are so helpful.
10-04-2005, 11:34 PM #16Originally Posted by jerby
10-05-2005, 11:19 AM #17
Playing against the wall is a very good way to train your hand eye coordination. One extra piece of advice though, strengthen up your wrist for this training. Try getting a squash racket and practice some wrist strokes with it. Or alternatively, cover the head of your racket with something and practice some wrist strokes with it. The racket head cover is to trap the air and cause a resistance against your stroke momentum. As your wrist gets stronger, you'll notice that you can play against the wall at a faster pace and thus progressively training your eyes to be faster as well. And when playing against the wall, you might want to try switching off your heads and making your wrist hit against the wall at random angles so that you have to react instinctively to the returns.
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