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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.bulutangkis View Post
    As much as they can do in tournaments rest.
    They have to finish in top 8 by doing best in Thomas Cup preliminary and finishing at least Semifinal All England, India SS, German GPG, Swiss GPG, Australia GPG, and Badminton Asia Championship.

    Positions 5-8 in MD are still open.
    BoSan, BC/GZD, KKK/TBH, Hashimoto/Hirata, Alvent/Hendra, and Kindra have critical points each to defend in tournaments I mention.

    I am not sure how points in team tournament being computed.
    But looking from Sudirman cup result, a player get "free" point at least 5000.
    Not sure for Thomas Cup preliminary.
    But, if INA is serious wishing Kindra playing in Olympic, Kindra can play there instead of BoSan.
    Kindra do not have points from team tournament, BoSan have already 5600 from Sudirman Cup.

    Watch out these semifinal today.
    If you are Kindra fans, just hoping BC/GZD and Hashimoto/Hirata could not reach final (evil wish..sigh)
    Thanks for all those explanation

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    Hendra partnering Vita for German GP gold. Would that affect Kindra performance?

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    It's not the first time that they parnter up with someone else. Don't think that this will affect them this much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.bulutangkis View Post
    As much as they can do in tournaments rest.
    They have to finish in top 8 by doing best in Thomas Cup preliminary and finishing at least Semifinal All England, India SS, German GPG, Swiss GPG, Australia GPG, and Badminton Asia Championship.

    Positions 5-8 in MD are still open.
    BoSan, BC/GZD, KKK/TBH, Hashimoto/Hirata, Alvent/Hendra, and Kindra have critical points each to defend in tournaments I mention.

    I am not sure how points in team tournament being computed.
    But looking from Sudirman cup result, a player get "free" point at least 5000.
    Not sure for Thomas Cup preliminary.
    But, if INA is serious wishing Kindra playing in Olympic, Kindra can play there instead of BoSan.
    Kindra do not have points from team tournament, BoSan have already 5600 from Sudirman Cup.

    Watch out these semifinal today.
    If you are Kindra fans, just hoping BC/GZD and Hashimoto/Hirata could not reach final (evil wish..sigh)
    This is the situation as now;
    1 CHN Cai Yun / Fu Haifeng 94461 12
    2 KOR Jung Jae Sung / Lee Yong Dae 85561 14
    3 KOR Ko Sung Hyun / Yoo Yeon Seong 74865 16
    4 DEN Mathias Boe / Carsten Mogensen 72583 11
    5 INA Mohammad Ahsan / Bona Septano 60382 15
    6 CHN Chai Biao / Guo Zhendong 59500 14
    7 MAS Kien Keat Koo / Boon Heong Tan 56671 12
    8 TPE Fang Chieh Min / Lee Sheng Mu 53539 18
    9 INA Alvent Yulianto Chandra / Hendra Aprida Gunawan 53020 16
    10 INA Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan 52130 13
    11 JPN Hirokatsu Hashimoto / Noriyasu Hirata 51333 17
    12 JPN Naoki Kawamae / Shoji Sato 50924 18

    Out of the top 12, only CB/GZD, INA2 and INA3 can earn points from the TC prelim. For both the INA pairs they should get about 6000 points and it’s a good chance that they can squeeze the TPE pair down to No 10.
    The table after the TU prelim will look like this;
    1 CHN Cai Yun / Fu Haifeng 94461 12
    2 KOR Jung Jae Sung / Lee Yong Dae 85561 14
    3 KOR Ko Sung Hyun / Yoo Yeon Seong 74865 16
    4 DEN Mathias Boe / Carsten Mogensen 72583 11
    5 CHN Chai Biao / Guo Zhendong 63840 15
    6 INA Mohammad Ahsan / Bona Septano 60382 15
    7 MAS Kien Keat Koo / Boon Heong Tan 56671 12
    8 INA Alvent Yulianto Chandra / Hendra Aprida Gunawan 54700 17
    9 INA Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan 54530 14
    10 TPE Fang Chieh Min / Lee Sheng Mu 53539 18
    11 JPN Hirokatsu Hashimoto / Noriyasu Hirata 51333 17
    12 JPN Naoki Kawamae / Shoji Sato 50924 18

    From then on if both the INA pairs can keep pace with the TPE and JAP pairs, one of them will go to London.
    Last edited by AlanY; 01-31-2012 at 03:30 PM.

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    bye bye olympics......

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    Indeed....they lost meekly again.

    Sad to say that they are no longer the force to be reckoned with, compared to the top 3 pairs in the World. Let's just say that they are satisfied with 1 Olympics Gold, 1 Asian Games Gold, and 1 WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Indeed....they lost meekly again.

    Sad to say that they are no longer the force to be reckoned with, compared to the top 3 pairs in the World. Let's just say that they are satisfied with 1 Olympics Gold, 1 Asian Games Gold, and 1 WC.
    still better than most pair in the world....
    at least for now JJS/LYD, CY/FHF no OG gold yet

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    Kido said in one article that he will cheer his brother in london, furthermore, they've done their part for Indonesia, to me, that means he'll not compete in Olympic

    thanks for your 2008 Olympic Gold and 2010 Asian Gold,, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan

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    Yeah... Sad to know... Bye bye MK/HS... INA solely hope for Gold Medal at OG2012 is Towi/Butet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Licin View Post
    Yeah... Sad to know... Bye bye MK/HS... INA solely hope for Gold Medal at OG2012 is Towi/Butet
    Yes, no other players...
    Last edited by luvina; 03-15-2012 at 09:44 PM.

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    last time i watch Kido/Hendra in All England against Be/Mogensen. they didnt have game plan. Kido play with full of emotion and mistakes. then i realize that they will not make it.
    not surprise with their lost in Swiss GPG. i wonder, a married guy like kido have a such high emotion and still cannot control it.

    I think, they are still considered as a legend pair in badminton era. with Asian games gold, WC gold, and olympics gold in hand.

    better for Sigit Pamungkas to return to Pelatnas. dont let Ko Herry work lonely with so many pairs. Kido can become a coach i think. Hendra, please return to Pelatnas. A player like you can give some lessons to the youngster to raise. Hendra/Ahsan will be good. it's ok. or maybe, Hendra can become an assistant coach in Pelatnas, i am sure, it will be perfect !

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    But the sad thing is not on MK/HS, but on unreadiness of Bona/Ahsan, and still long way to go for Rian/Angga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naistav View Post
    But the sad thing is not on MK/HS, but on unreadiness of Bona/Ahsan, and still long way to go for Rian/Angga.
    yes, quite sad about that.....
    but everything will be different after olympics i guess....
    no need to have some hope on bona/ahsan on olympic, we dont have any hope at all...
    except, there is a miracle like what kindra did in the asian games.
    what we have to think is about 2016 olympic games. dont make a new mistake.
    prepare for the regeneration.
    now we have rian/angga, and ahsan/partner, the coach should do something to our youngster, i think make some new pair after 5 tourney or so is good to find the best pairs if the previous pairs do not give any result....

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    Frankly, I am surprised by their slump. In fact, it could almost be called a collapse rather than a slump. Although they did recover some form during the SEA Games - but the opposition were not the best then.

    I thought after their Asian Games victory, and with Sigit Pamungkas quitting PBSI and concentrating on them only, it would be the start to better things.

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    Lack of focused training and intensive physical stamina build-up are probably two of the biggest factors contributing to this INA pair's downfall.

    While pairs like Fu/Cai and Jung/Lee continue to push themselves even further after they won titles after titles, Kido/Hendra are contented to just let it be and have no desire or motivation whatsoever to strike an even better result for themselves (such as winning an All-England title).

    And also, their marriages last year probably also played some part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhinneka View Post
    Kido said in one article that he will cheer his brother in london, furthermore, they've done their part for Indonesia, to me, that means he'll not compete in Olympicthanks for your 2008 Olympic Gold and 2010 Asian Gold,, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan
    So sad to hear that

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    bye bye Kido,
    go back to pelatnas Hendra

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