Image of the Yonex Old/Standard String Pattern

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  1. DinkAlot

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    Does anyone have an image of the old/standard Yonex string pattern? If so, please post it. In fact, if there are other standard patterns (other than the AT/NS pattern), please post those too. I did a search and couldn't find it, thanks! :D
     
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    I'm looking for that too :D
     
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    I am just wondering, does stringing pattern affect the friction between the birdie and strings or the racquet..?
     
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    I am not sure what you mean by old Yonex stringing pattern/practices. I am not aware that the one referred to from Yonex America is a Yonex Japan pattern. There are only two current Yonex stringing patterns, one for the Nanos and AT800s and another one for other Yonex racquets. The one for the others is entirely different from the one in the reference thread. Also, the Yonex Japan stringing pattern for the others was changed slightly about 2 years ago, the change was in the choice of the final cross tie-off from grommet#7 to grommet#6.
     
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    I think they have diff pattern for Iso and Oval shaped rackets.
     
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    I think you should read the whole thread that was refenced here in its entirety. Just confining it to post #41 can be misleading.
     
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    I believe most people who would like to string their own rackets know the typical stringing pattern recommended by Yonex. The reason why to ask about the old pattern is more likely that they got some old rackets and want to try what was recommended by the manufacturer at that moment.

    For the old oval pattern, the main string was tied at the the sixth grommets at bottom. while the cross string is knotted at the sixth grommet at the top and finished at the eighth grommet at the bottom.

    The current pattern string recommended the knots of the main string to be tied at the bottom eighth grommets while the finished knot should go to the seventh (or the sixth) grommet of the bottom.

    It is easy to see the current one reduces the string length left out (from grommet 10 to grommet 8 ) which is generally believed to cause the loss of tension. However, for the old instruction, the string tension is low; therefore, it should not be a big deal to have a longer left-out like that (from grommet 12 to grommet 6). I think either way should be fine for an old racket like Cab-8 or older.

    Telling the truth, I would say Yonex might have a reason to suggest a certain stringing pattern for a racket. As I always tell my friends, there is no absolute right (I mean "no only") way to string rackets; but you can definitely find a thousand stringing ways to make the hitting feeling terrible. For me, as long as the players like the way that their rackets are strung while it is not going to break the racket. I am open to ideas. Being limited to a certain pattern/way to string a racket makes ourselves lose the gut/chance to explore. Since the feeling is kinda subjective, why not trying different combination to see if you or the players like or hate it?

    Daring to explore is the reason why human being makes progress everyday. My motto for badminton equipments is "to try is to believe".

    -SC
     
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    trying to figure out the stringing patterns and stuff makes my eyes hurt... i look at the diagram and i dont get it.... 11th skip.... dah? lol im noob:)
     
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    The main begins from middle and goes all the way out. For the eleventh pass, skip the eleventh grommet at bottom and pass the string through the 12th grommet. Then tie the knot a the six grommet at the bottom.

    Guess this answers your question? :->

    -SC
     
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    Even if you have the old Yonex racquets, I would suggest you use the stringing pattern from Yonex Japan, not the one from Yonex America, which I feel has not been cleared with Yonex Japan.
    The reasons are technical which you can actually test out. Try stringing any racquet with the Yonex America pattern, which has the last mains coming out through the bottom grommets #12 with the two tie-offs at grommets #6, and then string a similar racquet with the Yonex Japan pattern, with the last mains coming out through grommets #10 and the tie-offs at grommets #8. You will feel the obvious difference. With the last mains going through grommets #10, after looping through #12, #11, the last string (#11, #12) is tighter, and with a shorter untensioned string (shorter by 4 grommets) on the outside frame, the tension disparity between the two patterns is further amplified. Also, the Japan pattern lends itself to a tighter tie-off at grommets #8 (for technical reasons the mains tie-offs must be on the nearest even numbered, never on odd numbered, grommets). This is because the tie-offs will pull back on the bottom mains at grommets #8 from the direction of the last main strings thus closing and tightening the noose. Also, what is often overlooked is that the USA pattern will distort the frame more as you move towards the sides when stringing.
    For the cross strings using the top grommet #6 for the starting knot and the bottom grommet #6 for the tie-off neutralizes the pull potential of these two knots. Having the tie-off at #8 doesn't quite do the job. Using #7 for the cross tie-off is even worse, resulting in the pull potential of the starting knot and the tie-off pulling the mains in one direction, creatibg an unbalanced tension over time.
     
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    Eepak: sorry, it's late here (3am), so do you mean you would recommend using this stringing pattern for all rackets (when applicable)? Of course if it's an older shared grommet style pattern, share them:

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    ^^^Please ignore the "Cut" on the above image. :p ^^^
     
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    no, I think he meant the stringing pattern that most people use nowadays.

    Main, begins from the center, goes thru the D9, skip D10 and D11, pass thru D12, go back up to pass A11, and go downward thru A10 then D10. Tie the knot at D8.

    Cross, tie the initial knot at A6, string downward till D9, and then tie the finish knot at D7 or D6.

    Jsut like the common practice here.

    -SC
     
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    Slight error here. The starting knot for the cross is at the top grommet 5 and the finishing cross tie-off is at the bottom grommet 6 but on the opposite side. This is necessary, because the rule for the two cross knots must follow either grommets 6 for both top and bottom on the same side or top #5 on one side and bottom #6 on the other side. This is to neutralize the two knots potential pull from doing harm.
    The diagram is only for racquets with a grommet system similar to the Yonex AT800 or Nano series, not other Yonex series.
    The diagram says it all.
     

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