Apple Aperture kills Photoshop...

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  1. aquaboi

    aquaboi Regular Member

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    well, not yet....but this'll give adobe a run for their money....from what i've seen it's an intuitive program...and of course, it runs great on macs:D i'm currently using photoshop cs (version 8.0) for my needs but might switch to this in the future...

    see more here: www.apple.com/aperture

    what do you think guys?
     
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    apple did the similar stuff before. like final cut pro which apple was trying to contend with adobe premiere.
    my point is that. they just can't kick away adobe unless they have exactly the same software on pc.
     
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    It's going to take a momumental effort to knock-off Photoshop. That said, Apple has superior audio and video skills so anything can happen, but it would take a long time.

    I'd say it's possible but not probable. :p
     
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    Apple have been coming up with great applications for consumers and pros......and iTunes :rolleyes:

    It will be nice to have an alternative, that is built for the OS. Need competition to improve :p Look at Quark vs Indesign

    Hopefully it isn't too good that Adobe will withdraw its own products from the platform.

    Anyhow, Apple will be moving onto intel processors in future for their whole range, so it might get more popular :p

    I predict Apple will venture in 3D apps in the future, pro level not certain, but consumer..you heard it here first :p

    Edit: doesn't look like a direct alternative, more use for photographers than artists

     
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    What's the creator of apple named?
     
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    Serious? :eek: If not, they're: Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. Two of the brilliant minds of our time. :D
     
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    ipod killed the photography star :D
     
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    that's so 80s man! haha:p

    seriously, apple looks poised for the digital war:D
     
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    more info on aperture

    ok guys, here's some more info on aperture...cheers :D

    • Aperture has a versioning system built in. When you import a photo, the program creates a digital negative of the file, which never gets altered. As you apply corrections and image effects, Aperture notes the changes without permanently applying them. When you're ready to print something, you tell Aperture to export the image and apply all of the settings you've specified over the course of the file's life in Aperture.

    One benefit of this, according to Apple, is that Aperture can track several different versions of the same file (one black-and-white, one color, and so on) without significantly increasing the demand on disk space. It doesn't duplicate the file, it just tracks different sets of image filters for each version of the same image. You can see the master image at any time by hitting a button.

    • Apple is not positioning Aperture as a Photoshop killer -- at least not in this version of the program. You can open Aperture files in Photoshop, make changes, and then return to Aperture. According to Apple, you will also be able to open layered PSD files in Aperture, however you won't be able to access those individual layers (if you return to Photoshop, the layers should all still be there).

    One note about the movement between the two apps: When you move to Photoshop, Aperture exports a version of the image with all of your current effects applied. If you reimport the Photoshop-edited file back into Aperture, it's like starting from scratch. The program creates a new digital negative and works from there. You can't jump back and change any Aperture settings you made before going Photoshop without also losing any of the changes you made in Photoshop. So you lose some of the benefit of the non-destructive editing every time you make the leap.

    • It sounds as though Aperture will resemble its distant iPhoto cousin in at least one way: how you manage your files -- or rather don't manage them. Like iPhoto, Aperture organizes and tracks your files for you. I haven't seen what the file system looks like at the back end (iPhoto annoyingly sorts its files by date). But Aperture's interface appears to group files into projects that you define.

    • Aperture also includes advanced options for creating books and Web galleries. Not only do photo books created through Aperture offer higher resolutions than what you get from iPhoto, they also give you more flexibility to customize the design and layout. The Web gallery also offers easier customization and outputs HTML files that you can then post on any site, not just .Mac. You can even create "smart" Web galleries that filter images according to your criteria -- such as rating -- and then update automatically as that criteria changes. You can also order prints of your photos.

    • According to Apple, you'll be able to automate Aperture via Applescript or Automator. You can also apply correction settings to multiple images by simply dragging and dropping the effect.

    • By the way, there's no Save command in Aperture. As you make changes, those changes are recorded in a SQL database.
     
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    Aquaboi: thanks for the info! :)



    That's new and interesting!

    Wow! That's very interesting! Sounds like Aperture is going to be groundbreaking, which is something Apple does regularly. :D
     
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    adobe fights back

    Free Web version of Photoshop launches
    By AMANDA FEHD, Associated Press Writer
    2 hours, 48 minutes ago


    The maker of the popular photo-editing software Photoshop on Thursday launched a basic version available for free online.

    San Jose, Calif.-based Adobe Systems Inc. says it hopes to boost its name recognition among a new generation of consumers who edit, store and share photos online.

    While Photoshop is designed for trained professionals, Adobe says Photoshop Express, which it launched in a "beta" test version, is easier to learn. User comments will be taken into account for future upgrades.

    Photoshop Express will be completely Web-based so consumers can use it with any type of computer, operating system and browser. And, once they register, users can get to their accounts from different computers.

    Web-based software is increasingly popular, and Adobe knows it's got to get on that train, said Kathleen Maher, an analyst at Jon Peddie Research.

    Many kinds of software are available for use online in a trend known as "software as a service," or "cloud computing." The earliest were e-mail programs, but they now include services to create and manage content and even whole operating systems. And they don't require time-consuming upgrades because they're maintained by the service provider.

    Google Inc. provides a host of such services, as do Microsoft Corp. and others.

    "This is the battlefield where Adobe and Microsoft and Google are going to fight some pretty big battles," Maher said.

    Photoshop enters the online photo-management arena many years after such services first appeared. Some companies have already made a big name for themselves, like 9-year-old storage solution Shutterfly Inc., photo-editing service Picnik or image-sharing site Photobucket Inc.

    Adobe says providing Photoshop Express for free is part marketing and part a strategy to create up-sell opportunities. It hopes some customers will move from it to boxed software like its $99 Photoshop Elements or to a subscription-based version of Express that's in the works.

    Ron Glaz, a research analyst at IDC, says the move was necessary for Adobe to keep pace. Users are less likely to switch to a software they aren't familiar with, he said.

    "They have a whole market that they are missing out on, and they need to make sure that the market is aware there is a Photoshop solution for them. As that market grows and becomes more sophisticated, hopefully it will generate money," Glaz said.

    "It's one of those things, if you can't beat them, join them," Glaz said. "If they don't join them, the long run could be really painful."
     

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