Taufik Vs Lin Dan

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  1. indra

    indra Regular Member

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    I can't wait to see the semi final match Taufik vs. Lindan.
    I think both players exist at the right time. Watching a match Taufik vs. Lin Dan is just like watching Liem Swie King vs. Han Jian...

    I think Taufik is already a living legend, the man to beat in every tournament!!!!
    Lin Dan may be the World No. 1 but he has never proved himself to be called the greatest in the tournaments regarded as the most important such as WC and Olympics.

    I want to compare Taufik and Lin Dan in all aspects of quality - 10 (highest score)

    - Smash = T (10), L (10)
    - Backhand = T (10), L (9)
    - Forehand = T (10), L (10)
    - Net = T (10), L (8)
    - Speed = T (9), L (10)
    - Drive = T (10), L (10)
    - Attack = T (10), L (10)
    - Defence = T (8), L (9)
    - Rally = T ( 8), L (9)
    - STamina = T (9), L (9)
    - Champion mentality: T (10), L (9)

    ANy other comments?
     
  2. peace

    peace Regular Member

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    Well, for mentality, I don't think Taufik is better. If we see the result so far, it shows that Lin Dan has better stability., he always reach final or at least SF. But Taufik, he lost in 3rd round of IO 2005. So, probably Lin Dan is slightly better in mentality.;)
     
  3. alloh

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    This topic has been discussing some time ago.
    I think the result head to head is
    Taufik 4 : 2 Lin Dan

    From me, I think Taufik is better than Lin Dan.
     
  4. FAST!

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    I think Lin Dan will be better if he doesn't play any trick shots or slow down a little when he is leading. I mean if he gives out 100%, he could be unbeatable. Just my opinion.


    :)
     
  5. taufik-ist

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    on other hand taufik will be much better if he plays tricky shots :)

    i think the game is like ali vs joe frizer if they meet each other :D
     
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    Could be. I didn't see taufik play that many trick shots.
     
  7. taufik-ist

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    taufik is the most complete badminton player that ever exists i think,
    his backhand stroke is deadly and as good as his forward stroke, also he's very good at net.
     
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    hmm, it's relative and hard to say, cos i would say "complete"..IMO, he might *arguably* have the most "complete" arsenal of strokes/shots of *the current* crop of MS players or even in the history of IBF/badminton, but if he is truly "complete", he would already won the AE and/or *every single* 4-star and above tourneys by now..

     
  9. taufik-ist

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    if he's on the mood :)
     
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    haha thats becoz u cant see his wrist motion on TV... If u watch closely when they zoom in especially his overhead shot.. its deadly
    (a good one to watch is Boonsak VS Taufik in OG2004)
     
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    haven't checked on this in a while, but during wc '05 lin dan got raped by taufik, for some reason lin dan's defence was off by a lot. i'm going to taufik this time.
     
  12. Brave_Turtle

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    Lin is very fast compared to Taufik and his stamina is phenomenal. However, I'm going for Taufik on this one because Taufik showed that he had superior net shot and he's been able to pin Lin at the net. I really enjoy watching Taufik playing because he is so unpredictable and he is a genius!

    It's funny how Taufik can be so precised at the net while holding his racquet so far from the cone. I always tought you get more precision when you hold your racquet near the cone.
     
  13. taneepak

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    Self-confidence is vital to playing tight tumbling net shots. Taufit uses this to undermine his opponent's confidence, and if the opponent cannot handle it then he goes to pieces. This was precisely how Taufit taunted Lin Dan in the WC and destroyed his confidence.
    But Taufit is no longer hungry. Once you scaled the highest peak-two peaks-there is no more fire.
    Holding the racquet towards the cone/shaft is good for returning or hitting quick shots that come near your body, especially at close distances in doubles, but for precision and deft shots the beveled shape of the handle is more stable.
     
  14. taufik-ist

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    he must also have a strong wrist
     
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    I think Lin and Taufik reprensent calssical difference between CHN and INA styles of play. CHN trained their player in speed and power from young through their system. INA more rely on natural talent (so more trick shots etc) at beginning and put on training if he/she show such talent in early days. I do not know which way is better. For CHN way, you can have an army of players and if you got one also has natural talent, you hit jack pot. This worked well for woman players. But it was a bit over done in man players now days. And it might destroy natrual talent players while they get put through such system. Just look at Bao CL, I beleive he has natural talent like Taufik (in my mind he is more talented). This was why Taufik loses more to Bao just because their playing styles. But Bao could not achieve their high mark as Lin in CHN system (Bao neraly lose every game to Lin). If let me put bet
    LIN vs Taufik: Taufik wins
    Bao vs Taufik: Bao wins
    Lin vs Bao: Lin wins.
     
  16. streamyx

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    It will be LCW Vs Lin Dan
    Let's see..

     
  17. taufik-ist

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    mightbe... :)

    the ideal semi is taufik vs lin dan , it will be "bloody game", rematch and payback :D
     
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    giving so many attributes the highest or second highest score...does that imply that they cannot improve further? i know we all love our favourite players, but let's use a little better judgement when giving scores like these.

    - Smash = T (8), L (7)
    - Backhand = T (8), L (7)
    - Forehand = T (8), L (8)
    - Net = T (9), L (7)
    - Speed = T (8), L (9)
    - Drive = T (9), L (9)
    - Attack = T (9), L (8)
    - Defence = T (7), L (8)
    - Rally = T (7), L (8)
    - STamina = T (9), L (9)
    - Champion mentality: T (8), L (8)
    have both gone to pieces before (maybe not as bad as ZJH) so both could improve. one could improve by more fire for winning normally, not just the big tournaments (i mean, he is a professional badminton player....what else is he paid(?) to do apart from represent his country and do his best?). the other should quit toying around with his opponents, and work on basic skills (learn from BCL) instead of trying to just run his opponent off the court, as that will probably result in a decreased playing-life for himself. And probably failure in olympics again (with so many rounds).
     
  19. taufik-ist

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    i think taufik's backhand deserves 10 .
    his backhand is very deadly
     
  20. Pingo

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    What do you mean by rally?
     

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