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Thread: Chinese Taipei Open Final
11-21-2005, 07:48 PM #35
Here's my opinion.
I think it's partly scheduling and finance. Scheduling because remember, both are coaches and working with a paid contract(with OCBC). So, it's not as easy for them to just take 2 weeks every month or every other month and fly away and play in some tournaments. Remember, reg. tourneys are usually 5-6 days long, so their trip will take 1 week. Which leads us to the the finance factor:who will pay for their tournament trips?? Certainly not OCBC, unless both OCBC and Tony&Halim have somekind of a contract that require Tony&Halim to divvy up whatever they earn in playing in those tourneys. Which in turn, if one look at it, it'll be the same as them playing back with PBSI.
Their coaching position is the main income, so to speak. Playing in outside tourneys, is more like a "moonlighting job", so to speak, as a side extra curriculur activities for them to collect extra bonus pay...
Hopefully one of these days before beginning of next year, me or harimau or other people, can stop by OCBC and meet up with Halim and Tony and asked them what is their plan for next year. And come back and share with you guys..-
sorry folkz if this thread has gone a bit off topic with the original thread post..
Originally Posted by Cheung
Last edited by ctjcad; 11-21-2005 at 07:52 PM.
11-21-2005, 09:14 PM #36Originally Posted by hcpoirot
What these players need are more match experiences at those satelitte and 1 to 3* tourneys. Winning breeds confidence and once they have the confidence, they can then "graduate" to the first team. Well, from past experiences, these junior players are sent to the nearby tournaments like Malaysia and Singapore Opens every year.
It's difficult to get a title at even these smaller tourneys (eg: Chinese Taipei Open) because other countries may send their top players too sometimes, eg: Team Korea. They even let Shon Seung Mo and Lee Jae Jin to compete in the Malaysian Satelitte. I think it's a strategy to let Shon have the feeling of winning so that he's better prepared for next year.
However, once a player/pair achieves certain ranking (eg: top 30), then, sending them to higher rated tourneys will be the priority so that now, they can experience playing against top pairs. Taking Team Indonesia's second team at the moment, I do think that Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi and Devin Lahardi/Vita Marissa should be more or less ready to take on bigger fishes. The other young pairs (esp the women's singles) should remain competing only in the smaller tourneys.
11-21-2005, 09:21 PM #37Originally Posted by hcpoirot
My original predictions were that Hendra/Joko to reach semi-final and get beaten by their super senior Tony/Halim. Meanwhile, Devin/Vita will reach the final and get beaten by Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung. I think Tony/Cheng's victory over the current world no 1 is the biggest upset in the tournament. Once they have done that, winning the title becomes easier because the main opponent is only the Indonesian pair.
Eventually, my predictions were correct. Tony/Halim did win the title, while Team Indonesia's best performance was a final appearance in mixed doubles.
So, I will consider it a relatively good outing for the second team.
11-21-2005, 11:14 PM #38
regarding the WC, Tony and Howard participate because they were representing the host country and travelling cost isnt much of the problem if in the US.
just my 2cents
11-21-2005, 11:46 PM #39Originally Posted by yuval_ba
11-22-2005, 12:11 AM #40
agree, very unrecognized accomplishment.
when i get a tiny nick on my hand or i ate little too much, my performance drop quite abit and then other players say i whine too much
11-22-2005, 12:59 AM #41Originally Posted by cooler
11-22-2005, 01:51 AM #42Originally Posted by cooler
11-22-2005, 06:14 AM #43
OCBC pays for their tournament trips. And they get to keep their winnings.
Originally Posted by ctjcad
11-23-2005, 04:07 AM #44
Alright, thx for clearing that up ironchef. I guess you are a member with OCBC and know the ins and outs of OCBC and Tony & Halim??..
If that's the case, then i will say OCBC is pretty generous, if they are willing to pay for T & H trips and let them keep their winnings..
Originally Posted by ironchef
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