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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    What color are you using? Color makes a difference. The XT I prefer is black. I tried gray and it's too thin and initially is extremely tacky but gets slippery quick. It doesn't even feel like it's the same grip.

    Anyway, the black is my recommended XT and gray is an avoid. Red was good too.
    it's black too, surely thicker than wilson pro ovrgrip white, but even thicker i felt no cushion at all, feel rigid for me, first 1 hour of play i almost slip the handle when doing smash, i wonder : what's wrong w/ this overgrip??"
    NO tacky at all fiuhhh... i already bought 1 pack of these.
    so i change to wilson pro then grip well in my palm even it's thinner.
    pro --> tends to slip because it's thin, not suit weel in my palm
    xtra tack ---> tends to slip because not tacky, but the feel is suit well in my palm

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    Quote Originally Posted by sifuyono View Post
    xtra tack ---> tends to slip because not tacky, but the feel is suit well in my palm
    You have either purchased fake or defective grip. Xtra Tack is the tackiest grip. Today I was sweating like crazy and it held up well where others did not.

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    where you bought ?

    my Wilson Xtra Tack is still good and tacky eventhough after a month. I have a sweaty-palm btw. I bought in Singapore and seems that only one shop sold this overgrip .......


    Quote Originally Posted by sifuyono View Post
    it's black too, surely thicker than wilson pro ovrgrip white, but even thicker i felt no cushion at all, feel rigid for me, first 1 hour of play i almost slip the handle when doing smash, i wonder : what's wrong w/ this overgrip??"
    NO tacky at all fiuhhh... i already bought 1 pack of these.
    so i change to wilson pro then grip well in my palm even it's thinner.
    pro --> tends to slip because it's thin, not suit weel in my palm
    xtra tack ---> tends to slip because not tacky, but the feel is suit well in my palm

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    You have either purchased fake or defective grip. Xtra Tack is the tackiest grip. Today I was sweating like crazy and it held up well where others did not.
    Yesterday i asking some player to try hold these 2 kind of overgrip, which of these is tacky the most (between pro and xtra tack)?
    pro---> about 12 hours of use
    xtra t---> about 1 hour of use
    most of them said the pro is more tacky and grip well, and one said the xtra tack of mine is not tacky but rather a little bit sticky compare to it peer.
    Yeah, maybe i bought a fake or defect product

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    Quote Originally Posted by sifuyono View Post
    Yesterday i asking some player to try hold these 2 kind of overgrip, which of these is tacky the most (between pro and xtra tack)?
    pro---> about 12 hours of use
    xtra t---> about 1 hour of use
    most of them said the pro is more tacky and grip well, and one said the xtra tack of mine is not tacky but rather a little bit sticky compare to it peer.
    Yeah, maybe i bought a fake or defect product

    Wilson Pro overgrip is not even that tacky. It's minor to at most, moderately tacky. Maybe you got the two grips mixed-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Wilson Pro overgrip is not even that tacky. It's minor to at most, moderately tacky. Maybe you got the two grips mixed-up.
    No..No.., not mixed up, when decide they always hold the racket " this one is tacky, this one isn't"
    so it's not mixed up surely
    1st fake racket, then fake string, then fake shoes, now fake overgrip...
    maybe it'll be fake shuttlecock, fake t shirt, even fake player maybe...
    next game i'll try again w/ xtra tack, maybe i haven't "break in" enough..
    but again, it's suit my palm so excellent, but the feel isn't.
    And for now, i'll still choose wilson pro for my favorit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sifuyono View Post
    Yesterday i asking some player to try hold these 2 kind of overgrip, which of these is tacky the most (between pro and xtra tack)?
    pro---> about 12 hours of use
    xtra t---> about 1 hour of use
    most of them said the pro is more tacky and grip well, and one said the xtra tack of mine is not tacky but rather a little bit sticky compare to it peer.
    Yeah, maybe i bought a fake or defect product
    he is rite ...... Xtra tack is a bit sticky feel compare to Pro (maksudnya agak lengket gitu khan ?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    he is rite ...... Xtra tack is a bit sticky feel compare to Pro (maksudnya agak lengket gitu khan ?)

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    tacky (adj.) : tacky (of glue, paint, or other substances) retaining a slightly sticky feel;
    yes, it's not tacky IMO, just a little bit sticky, even karakal pu more sticky than this "fake" ovgr

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    Quote Originally Posted by sifuyono View Post
    yes, it's not tacky IMO, just a little bit sticky, even karakal pu more sticky than this "fake" ovgr
    There is some misunderstanding here, tacky = sticky, at least in the English language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    There is some misunderstanding here, tacky = sticky, at least in the English language.
    ohh... for me --> "xtra tack" is slippery

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    anyone try out the wilson super thins? it's not bad :P

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    just picked up a pack of wilson Xtack again (the prices they charge here...triple that of my pro-grip from the USA)

    and the weird thing is, Xtack is definatly tacky, sticky, rubbery, whatever you name it. But when you sweat, the grip doesn't absorb anything and it almost feels like there's some sort of a moist layer on top of the grip.
    Xtack is very tacky, but totally not absorbent (imho, ymmv )

    now, wilson pro is 'tacky' for about...the first five minutes. But afterwards the grip feel 'okay' and keeps absorbing and feeling comfortable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby View Post
    just picked up a pack of wilson Xtack again (the prices they charge here...triple that of my pro-grip from the USA)

    and the weird thing is, Xtack is definatly tacky, sticky, rubbery, whatever you name it. But when you sweat, the grip doesn't absorb anything and it almost feels like there's some sort of a moist layer on top of the grip.
    Xtack is very tacky, but totally not absorbent (imho, ymmv )

    now, wilson pro is 'tacky' for about...the first five minutes. But afterwards the grip feel 'okay' and keeps absorbing and feeling comfortable...
    same situation as mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by sifuyono View Post
    same situation as mine
    on the title.

    I'm going to say this one more time, you need to read more carefully.

    All my reviews are relative to its peers.

    It's not my fault if you do not understand or failed to read the side notes. Relative to its peers is not absolute; relative to its peers is a comparison. If it was an absolute rating, I would rate NO overgrip "Excellent" in the wet because there is no grip that's truly excellent in extremely sweaty and wet conditions.

    Relative to its peers gives you the most accurate comparative rating. Meaning if something is rated "Excellent" and you do not feel that way, other grips are not going to do too much better.

    You do not need to keep repeating you don't agree with me, people don't need to IM me or constantly e-mail me, "OMG, my findings are different than yours, what's wrong?!"

    Indonesia is much more humid than Southern California which is very dry. So my level of sweat will be different than yours. I wear a sweatband, maybe you don't. I constantly switch rackets or use Prince Tacky Gel, maybe you don't.

    The point is, if you don't agree, fine. But please stop going on and on and on. And those of you contacting me, please stop.

    As I have said many times before, everyone's mileage may vary. It doesn't matter what I say or recommend, you should go with what you like.

    Finally, conditions change and products are updated. My findings at the time of the review was just that. My findings now can be different; and if, when I get a chance, I will update it.
    Last edited by DinkAlot; 07-22-2007 at 08:53 PM.

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    I totally agree with Panda Dan.Cut him some slack..use the review as a guideline and try out and see how it goes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    on the title.

    I'm going to say this one more time, you need to read more carefully.

    All my reviews are relative to its peers.

    It's not my fault if you do not understand or failed to read the side notes. Relative to its peers is not absolute; relative to its peers is a comparison. If it was an absolute rating, I would rate NO overgrip "Excellent" in the wet because there is no grip that's truly excellent in extremely sweaty and wet conditions.

    Relative to its peers gives you the most accurate comparative rating. Meaning if something is rated "Excellent" and you do not feel that way, other grips are not going to do too much better.

    You do not need to keep repeating you don't agree with me, people don't need to IM me or constantly e-mail me, "OMG, my findings are different than yours, what's wrong?!"

    Indonesia is much more humid than Southern California which is very dry. So my level of sweat will be different than yours. I wear a sweatband, maybe you don't. I constantly switch rackets or use Prince Tacky Gel, maybe you don't.

    The point is, if you don't agree, fine. But please stop going on and on and on. And those of you contacting me, please stop.

    As I have said many times before, everyone's mileage may vary. It doesn't matter what I say or recommend, you should go with what you like.

    Finally, conditions change and products are updated. My findings at the time of the review was just that. My findings now can be different; and if, when I get a chance, I will update it.
    i think you're misunderstood
    i'm just comment on jerby, and told him that what happened to him is also same situation happened to me.
    so there's nothing i've said means to disagree about your review. And never of me tends to say that i disagree with you
    i'm sorry if you angry for my previously post.

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    hopefully master dinkalot can review the karakal grips too.
    currently i am using karakal and kimoni overgrips. with the reviews, i may venture into others brand to suit me, as these reviews really help us to choose which is suitable to individual.

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