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09-17-2005, 08:03 PM #1
NEW BADMINTON RULES: Best of three game 21 point system
NEW DELHI, Sept 17 (Bernama) -- The headquarters of International Badminton Federation (IBF) will be moved from Cheltenham in the United Kingdom to Kuala Lumpur by December this year.
The decision to shift to Kuala Lumpur was taken a year ago, said IBF marketing president Punch Gunalan in an interview in the leading English daily, Hindustan Times.
"We took this decision as we felt that the popularity of the sport, the fan-following and the sponsors were all in this part of the world," Gunalan said.
"I can tell you that by December we will be moving over to Kuala Lumpur, where a new building will be housing the IBF office," he said.
Gunalan also said a new 21-point best-of-three-game format was also in the pipeline to make the sport more television-friendly.
"The new 21-point format, used in table tennis, has a major advantage. Every time a player serves he stands to gain a serve. The current rule of time-out unnecessarily prolongs the game. To make the game more TV-friendly, we have to ensure that the duration of the matches is drastically shortened," he added.
On average, he said, a men's singles match if it went the full distance could be played for more than an hour and such an extended game did not fit the profile of a TV audience.
Asked about time-out between games, Gunalan said: "There is also a difference in time-out under the new system. For instance, now there will be a break of one minute after every eleven points. This comes in place of the two-minute break after 15 points, which is how it stands now. We hope that with this, players will recover faster.
"It must be remembered that modern-day badminton is one of the most taxing sports and exerts a lot of pressure on the body. The possibility of a player getting injured is much more now than ever before. Even the fittest of players, like Taufik Hidayat and Chen Hong, were sidelined with injuries.
"Therefore, it is in the larger interest of the game that we have decided to shorten the duration of the game. Otherwise, we feel the life span of an active player would be cut considerably. That is something which we have to guard against," he said.
09-17-2005, 08:30 PM #2
what!!!! ... honestly.. that's stupid.. 21 pts... with ping pong rules... that's too fast...><... doubles games are gonna be like soo shorttttt...... but does anyone know when it's gonna be official??... like use in international games or anything?
09-17-2005, 09:06 PM #3
09-17-2005, 09:25 PM #4
omg. this is gonna suck! start a petition!!!
09-17-2005, 09:59 PM #5
tennis is so much longer yet it is still popular!
keep to the current system!
09-17-2005, 10:44 PM #6Originally Posted by fanatico
I hope they decide to test out the system in some low key tournaments first i.e. prototyping the system. Otherwise, they will suffer the same problems as computer system users...trying to implement a system where the user requirements are largely unknown.
Maybe they are leaking the details out to gauge reactions?
09-17-2005, 11:32 PM #7
Badminton match too long??? Since when??? On EPL nights if I watch 3 matches its 6 hours of my life already! I might not even get to see a goal .
09-18-2005, 03:10 AM #8
let me get this right.. 1 set of 21 points and at the 11th point.. there would be a 1 minute break.. is that it?
09-18-2005, 05:19 AM #9
Start a petition and what? Like a little group of us is gonna stop punchy over there. He's such a retard.
EDIT: INJURIES?!?!? WHAT IN THE BLOOMING HELL IS WRONG WITH INJURIES. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE BADMINTON LOOK LIKE A PANSY's GAME!?!?!?
Pro Athletes are supposed to get injured. If they don't they're not trying hard enough. Geez punchy you've hit the nail on the head for this one.
09-18-2005, 06:45 AM #10Originally Posted by harimau
If we wanna play like ping pong, we go play ping pong !
If the score format is like ping pong then ping pong MUST SURELY be TV friendly now! Let's just turn on the tv for a week and see how many times we get to see ping pong being aired!
The key to success is to MARKET the sport!
09-18-2005, 07:24 AM #11
Can you say "fast games" anyone?
09-18-2005, 07:31 AM #12
I think it could well turn out to be a huge failure, and soon after they will switch back, just like when they changed it to 7x5 scoring
09-18-2005, 07:42 AM #13
I don't get how it could be 21 points and best of three? is it the first to 21 points? I was under the impression best of three would win by 2 games..unless he mean 3 x 7 points?
Someone give Mr Punch a...punch
09-18-2005, 08:11 AM #14
LOL. Why stop at 21? Why not make it a 3 point game. They will be able to televise an entire tournament in half a day. I am sure the TV stations would love that.
09-18-2005, 08:14 AM #15Originally Posted by jug8man
they dont make people play on mini golf courses to make it quicker...tennis matches go on for a really long time, and they get regular breaks...during which no ads are screened (maybe the BBC is special) so they want ads to be screened during these regular breaks they are trying to insert into badminton?
Anyway, the ads during the AE broadcasts are of hi-tec and some sports betting company. yay i mean even badminton manufacturers aren't getting ads in.
generally its all pretty stupid. we want to evolve the sport, not make a new one but still call it badminton. rally scoring is just dumb. at least in volleyball the serving side can be at a disadvantage since the other team should get the first spike in so if you had none rally system it would take forever to get to 25, and if u make the points needed less, it would look a bit pathetic to uninformed masses.
maybe this whole score only on serve things is confusing for everybody? maybe the commentators can't be bothered to expalin that little point during the game? I mean does anyone complain that the 0-15-30-40-D-A system in tennis is confusing and needs changing to 0-1-2-3 etc?
gah...use ur brain for once instead of trying to copy other people. badminton? oh thats the game exactly the same as table tennis but with a feather thingy and a bigger court. the main thing is that people don't indentify with the players as much as football (both types) and so dont support anyone in particlar, and so dont really watch it. its not that they get confused about the scoring system, or have problems in concentration and can't handle games for more than 30 minutes.
and what's that stupid stuff about injuries. yeah why not make rugby into contact-rugby.....way less broken noses and clavicles! oh no the cricket ball is so hard, it might hurt someone! lets make it lighter, or give the batsmen NFL armour. oh no, soccer players are always straining their legs. they must run too much, lets made the game 10 mins both ways so they wont get tired and injured and can play into their 50s. oh man the marathon is sooo long...they must get really sore feet and creaky joints. to save the cartilage on their joints and keep their soles really nice and soft, we'll let them only run 1 mile a day.
this is sport, its not acting.
tv doesn't show badminton becuase half the time the producers/editors/management think its a sissy sport or some backyard game. or they don't get enough viewers. A problem with adverts? OMG just chuck them in anywhere u want if that's the only problem. too hard to schedule? its ok, seeing as its live, then u can just stop broadcasting when the next program is on.
badminton needs more publicity in more countries, but that doesn't mean it needs to change so drastically into anther sport altogether. all i can say is that i think badminton is gaining publicity and popularity in england, not because the IBF are making headlines about how the women should be more sexy but because of achievements by the UK players. this is the list of different sports that have their own sections on the BBC webpage:
Yup, so badminton is less popular than gold, motorsport, boxing, snooker and cycling. great. and by making rally system to 21, it will automatically become much more popular.
back to injuries....football, rugby and tennis are very popular. can you imagine the FIFA, WTA etc saying they will reduce the exersions needed to help players have less injuries.
scraping the barrel....try publicising badminton, if not by tv, then by setting up exhibition events, touring like they do at election time, liasioning with individual country badminton committees and organising events and shows.
surely anything better than daydreaming in the office
09-18-2005, 09:01 AM #16
well sure ibf may have changed the rules, but that does not mean you have to follow them. even if you do decide to go with the new rules, what about the other club members? i am pretty positive that other club members may disagree on these new rules and just stick with the old one. i for one am with the old system, and i hope the other badminton players at the club decide to stay with the old system.
09-18-2005, 10:58 AM #17
Dude Wtf!!!! Tennis Is Like 4 Hours Per Match!!! They Should Leave It As It Is! Its Good Enuf
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