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Thread: New scoring format
12-22-2005, 10:11 AM #239Originally Posted by kanive
And yes, I'm a Red Sox fan. Live in Framingham for 2.5 years pursuing my MBA in Boston. Gooo Pats!
12-22-2005, 10:21 AM #240Originally Posted by CWB001
it's 5-all.. your opponent is serving.. you win the rally, now it's 5-6 and your serve.. if you don't win the next rally too you end up back at 6-6. the equivalent in the old system would result in the score being 5-5 instead of 6-6.. yes 21 points isn't really enough and i'd like to see it made to 25 or maybe even 31, but it's a fine balance between entire tournaments being lengthened by whitewash matches that take too long and games being too short to be interesting
i see two options if we keep with rally scoring.. (which i would guess the IBF will do since it makes ad break opportunities marginally more predictable without having to resort to timeslip technology (which btw i think is a much simpler less upsetting solution))
1 - increase the score to 25 / 31 and have deuce points up to 35 / 40
2 - stick with 21 but have an endless tiebreak on the deciding set..
12-22-2005, 10:31 AM #241Originally Posted by cooler
12-22-2005, 10:37 AM #242Originally Posted by coops241180
12-22-2005, 01:36 PM #243Originally Posted by DinkAlot
Originally Posted by DinkAlot
But getting back on topic, I found this link to an old USA Today list that estimates the revenues for all major league baseball teams.. don't know how to make a link here, but here is the URL:
The point being, TV deals look good in newspaper reports, but the lifeline of the sport is in putting butts into seats.
I am curious .. how much did the IBF earn from the World Championships at Anaheim? How much from ticket sales, and how much from TV deals?
01-03-2006, 06:40 AM #244
It may not strike you as strange to learn that the old badminton scoring system is actually 4 different scoring systems? The new scoring system uses the same scoring system for MS, MD, MX, WS, and WD. One standard is better than 4 standards, especially for newcomers to badminton.
Now doesn't this make more sense?
01-03-2006, 06:53 AM #245Originally Posted by taneepak
And playing to 11 is not actually a significant difference in terms of complexity and ease of understanding, is it?
That is also true in tennis, of course. Except that tennis has different numbers of sets according to the tournament, and different tie-break systems - so maybe changing the scoring system is not the golden bullet after all.
How do the scoring methods for MD, MX and WD differ from one another?
01-03-2006, 07:46 AM #246Originally Posted by CWB001
The old scoring system for MS has no second serve after the loss of the first serve, best of 3x15, and the server always serving on the side of the court of his or her score (odd no. on the left and even no. on the right).
In MD/MX/WD, you have a second serve, you always serve from the right side on a change of service side, irrespective of your score, which is at odds with the singles game which allows serving from either the left or the right in acordance with your score.
In WS, the same comments on MS apply here but with another change from 3x15 to 3x11.
The new system has the same 3x21, the same no second serve, the same serving side. It is one grand unifying scoring system that is simple to understand, especially for people new to the game.
I was brought up with the imperial system of weights and measures but I found switching to the metric system makes life so much simpler. It is the same story with numbers. The Indian 0 decimal system replaced all the old Roman and other numbering systems a long time ago, but only after a great fight.
01-03-2006, 08:14 AM #247Originally Posted by taneepak
01-03-2006, 08:49 AM #248
Anyway the question is about switching from serve scoring to rally scoring.
This has NOTHING to do with having differences in MS, WS and doubles.
You can keep serve scoring and decide there is only one service per doubles pair, this has nothing to do with rally scoring.
Personnally, I am not against any change to scoring system, I am simply against rally scoring and shortening overall match durations.
01-03-2006, 10:58 AM #249Originally Posted by taneepak
Originally Posted by taneepak
Originally Posted by taneepak
01-03-2006, 11:27 AM #250Originally Posted by seven
01-03-2006, 11:35 AM #251
i'm just against shortened match durations and the lessened chance of a comeback...
01-03-2006, 11:50 AM #252Originally Posted by coops241180
Lessened chance of a comeback is the direct consequence of rally scoring.
01-03-2006, 12:14 PM #253
after watching some newbies play yesterday, I couldn't help but think how much quicker they would have been off the court if it was rally points. i watched this group playing doubles, and them going around each player at least 3 times each of them losing their services, i would say it must have been a few minutes at least that the score stayed static.
using the rally point counting (regardless if 3x15 or 3x21), there would have been 12 or 16 points chewed up right there! they would have been off the court so much quicker!
01-03-2006, 12:16 PM #254Originally Posted by badrad
01-03-2006, 01:24 PM #255Originally Posted by CWB001
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