No angle towards my smash..

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  1. quik_silver

    quik_silver Regular Member

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    Hi guys...

    I am abit lazy to search.. But anyways, I played badminton for awhile now. And my friend told ALOT of times that you must have good angles for smashes. Of course, I tried having my smashes have good angles, but I have been practicing awhile now. No improvement, my smashes go straight out of the courts... Can anyone guide me through how to get a good smash.?

    Thanks!
     
  2. MusclePower100

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    There w of ways that i can think of in getting good angle:

    there is no particular order for this

    1. try to get behind the bird as fast as possible and hit at the highest point
    2. try doing a jump smash

    have someone with you and ask them to feed to you. do it only half court until you or your friend thinks your smashes are good enough then do full court side to side smashing.

    hope this helps you, if not try looking around the forum there are a lot of sources in how to get angle in your smashes.
     
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    yea, try intercepting the shuttle at the highest point you feel comfortable with. the higher you get to it, the eaiser it is to generate angle.
    and if you get behind the shuttle more, you'll be hitting it downwards as opposed to straight forwards or upwards if its too close to you.

    these are best tried off the court, where the net isn't in the way of the drills. its annoying to have to run over to pick stuff up every now and then, even with dozens of shuttles.

    and not to discredit MusclePower100 or anything of that sort, don't try to jump smash yet.

    if you can't smash on the ground, you definitely can't smash in the air.
    if you can't walk, you can't run.
     
  4. Matt

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    Might want to check the way you're holding the racket as well because that could affect why you cannot get the angle down.

    Personally I had a simlar issue, while my smashed couldn't go down either. It was basically a shallow angled where the bird ends up at the back line line on the opponent.

    While I was playing, someone noticed the way I was hitting, told me that the way I'm gripping was incorrect. Didn't really notice for a long time since I gotten used it from the beginning. Once I changed to the correct grip, I would easily get the attack angle to get the bird down. From then, it took like a month or so to redeveloped basics for all shots.
     
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    quik_silver Regular Member

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    Many thanks to the replies! I hope I can improve my smash with all of your opinion and coaching! :):)
     
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    also make sure that your body is turned, don't smash with an open face, its more difficult to generat angle unless you hit a stick smash (a smash using only ur wrist, usefull to cut off shots)
     
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    matt put up a good advice. i noticed that most players that hold pan handle cannot seem to get the shots downward and always rockets outside the court. being behind the bird is also important, but make sure you are in a good position. smashing while being out of position is not very useful compared to a clear or drop.
     
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    Yup to add to dude88,

    In some cases, it may look like they are using the pan handle grip but but looking more carefully it isn't because the the v-shape is at the wrong side of the handle. For me when I did this it affected all my shots because it prevented me from hitting the bird in front of me, as I mainly was hitting the bird just slightly right of my body, like a few inches or so.
     
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    Dont drop your elbow

    If everything else people mention you are doing correctly, this is your problem
     
  10. BethuneGuy

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    Your friend might say something like this: with better footwork, your shots will improve, if you can't get there, you can't hit the bird. Your shots will come, after you've learned how to get to where you need to hit the shot. Also, get your grip/swing checked. To unlearn the wrong swing, is extremely frustrating, but nonetheless, you'll see that the correct swing is infinitely better than the wrong one, once you've corrected it.
     
  11. theasiandude88

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    definitely agreed. there is no point in having a superb smash if you cannot even get to use the shot in a game.

    i still remember changing grip and swing was a pain. so difficult. i would play like **** for a couple weeks, but I keep at it and I eventually get use to it so dont give up even if you feel like quitting :D ;)
     
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    If you notice yr smash tend to go a bit too Flat and drive outta the court maybe you'r hitting the bird too low, u'r forcing the bird to go flat inorder to get pass the net which with power and it goes right outta the court. Try to get the highest point of impact. where u have a comfortable room to force the bird aiming down instead of going parallel to the net.
     
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    remember to flick the wrist downwards. wrist wrist wrist. wrist is very important
     
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    It's not wrist... I believe. Pronation of forearm isn't it? Old school coaches would say wrist, but I think players are taught to use wrist only to control direction of birdie, flicking wrist would injure yourself.
     
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    Agreed.

    Using wrist for power = weak shots, risk of injury especially on backhands

    Using wrist for angle = good :)
     
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    wow maybe that is why my wrist feels dead so quickly
     
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    Quite probably.

    I have the bad habit of trying to use wrist sometimes for backhand drives and net kills. Every time I do this, it hurts :rolleyes:
     
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    Wait a minute. If you're not using your wrist for backhand drives, then what are you using? I don't see any other way.
     
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    Actually, there are two other ways:

    1. Forearm supination (often confused with wrist)
    2. Finger power (for half-court drives)

    The main method is forearm supination. Finger power is more advanced and specialised.

    You need your racket head to be higher than the level of your wrist, so that you can rotate the forearm. It's the same motion as for a forehand drive, but in reverse.

    You cannot perform this action with the "backhand" grip, as illustrated in the BC grips guide. Mea culpa, but I will correct the guide on this ;) You need a neutral grip, similar to the forehand.
     
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    Hi Gollum

    This is interesting

    Are you referring only to straight drives? What about cross court drives? Can 'wrist usage' be avoided?

    Can you explain the 'finger power' technique for the drive shot you are referring to? You must have pretty big hand to do this. Just wondering :)


     

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