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    忍 一 時 風 平 浪 靜
    退 一 步 海 闊 天 空

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    This is just getting blown way out of proportion. First of all please refer to back to the posts.

    1) My response was to 'Anarchy' who said that cklee must have 'failed math' or something like that and thats why he had placed his name on number 8 instead of 4. Please read my response, it had nothing to do with religion or belief.

    2) I had put cklee's name back into number 4 slot thinking that he might have made a mistake in putting it at the number 8 slot.

    3)So the next time if you are putting your name into the 8th slot because of your belief then do please let me know because I dont know you well enough to know your personal belief or religion for that matter. You are Chinese, but that could easily mean that you are Christian,Catholic,Buddhist,Hindu, or even Muslim.

    So please check the facts before jumping to conclusion, I was actually trying to defend cklee from being called "Blind" and having failed Math.

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    theforceisback

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    i tot in some dialect 4 means good luck.

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    the solution is put the number 4 as 3+1. so that it means 4 indirectly. anyway, why let this Anarchy guy come and disturb the group. Dun think he ever played with us b4.

    Venue: Choa Chu Kang Sports Hall

    Date: 5th of August 2006


    Time: 8am-10am

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    Court 8 (8am-->10am)


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    Default Superstition a chinese thing? Nope

    Quote Originally Posted by cktiew
    4 carries the unauspicious sound of "die" in Chinese. When the spirits and stuffs are out roaming, everyone wants to avoid being co-opted as member...
    Hi everyone,

    I cant help but to notice how this Malcom guy is stirring up a bigger issue than it actually is.. he must be a young punk who has no deep understanding about cultural and cutomary beliefs and superstition. If he's a chinese its embarassing. Maybe he hasn't the time to learn well and respect his own chinese "pantang" from his parents. It has nothing to do with religion as he blatantly mentioned. This shows his ignorance in the subject.

    In indonesia, there are plenty of "pantang". There's no harm observing them but ignore them at your own risk. I've come accross a few cases in my own hometown and some in Thailand. What more during the 7th Month, where i suppose even my chinese friends refuse to travel long distance for fear of "entangling" themselves with unwanted "attention".

    that person called theforceisback may not be chinese so he may not understand the sensitivity behind cklee's choice of numbers hence forgivable. I think cktiew did a good job explaining the chinese pantang to all.

    No offence. Its my unbiased comment from another land.

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    Once again I do not think that I was ignorant of cklee's belief. I am a Malaysian who grew up with Malays and Chinese as some of my closest friends. So my ignorance is not an issue, lets just say that I was not thinking religion or belief in a badminton forum. Honestly I thought that someone made a mistake and that I was correcting that mistake and thats the bottom line, nothing more.

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    I'm not Chinese, but as far as I know this year is special coz get 2 months long for the 7th month which started from 25 Juli 2006 - 23 August 2006 and continue from 24 August 2006 - 21 September 2006 (please correct it if is wrong).

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    Default Saturday Game- 5 Aug 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by theforceisback
    Once again I do not think that I was ignorant of cklee's belief. I am a Malaysian who grew up with Malays and Chinese as some of my closest friends. So my ignorance is not an issue, lets just say that I was not thinking religion or belief in a badminton forum. Honestly I thought that someone made a mistake and that I was correcting that mistake and thats the bottom line, nothing more.

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    Hey Jimmy, thanks for standing up for me. Well i guess some ppl (anarchy)are dumber than we thought. Its all right. I'm cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utopia_imminent
    the solution is put the number 4 as 3+1. so that it means 4 indirectly. anyway, why let this Anarchy guy come and disturb the group. Dun think he ever played with us b4.

    Venue: Choa Chu Kang Sports Hall

    Date: 5th of August 2006


    Time: 8am-10am

    Courts:
    Court1 (8am-->9am)
    Court7 (8am-->10am)
    Court 8 (8am-->10am)


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    No need so complicated lah. Else 14 ("sure die" in Chinese) will become 13+1, and some pple also dun like no. 13 so we split again 12+1+1, and the list goes on... Certain numbers will always sound "inauspicious" to certain pple, so just keep the number as it is. Those who dislike a particular number just wait for his "right" number to come up (Slacker's Theory Of Number Patience) or explain yourself clearly if you decide to "jump" number (Jimm's Theory Of Number Jumping) . I suggest we look beyond our differences and move on without any hard feelings. Any seconder to my motion ?

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    i dun think what malcolm said was insensitive. he just suggested to cklee to wait for the 4th slot to fill up b4 entering his name. it is easier for jimmy plus we want a correct count of players.

    so, i second to use Slacker's Theory of Number Waiting.

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    Venue: Choa Chu Kang Sports Hall

    Date: 5th of August 2006


    Time: 8am-10am

    Courts:
    Court1 (8am-->9am)
    Court7 (8am-->10am)
    Court 8 (8am-->10am)


    Confirmed Playing:

    1)theforceisback (tentative)
    2)sunder
    3)amit
    3+1) Mike T
    5) blacvios (Eric)
    6)david
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    Default Saturday Game- 5 Aug 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by utopia_imminent
    i dun think what malcolm said was insensitive. he just suggested to cklee to wait for the 4th slot to fill up b4 entering his name. it is easier for jimmy plus we want a correct count of players.

    so, i second to use Slacker's Theory of Number Waiting.
    The suggestions sounds ok in theory, but in practical its difficult to implement for those who are on the go and busy away from the computer. When you log in, the places may be empty but the next time you're free to surf infront of the comp your place might all be taken up. You would have lost your place by waiting.

    I suppose after this debacle, everyone would be alert to know why names are not in order. I suppose i'm the only superstitious chinese around to do that anyway.

    So i support Jimmy's idea of informing instead. 1st come 1st serve

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    Quote Originally Posted by theforceisback
    Once again I do not think that I was ignorant of cklee's belief. I am a Malaysian who grew up with Malays and Chinese as some of my closest friends. So my ignorance is not an issue, lets just say that I was not thinking religion or belief in a badminton forum. Honestly I thought that someone made a mistake and that I was correcting that mistake and thats the bottom line, nothing more.

    Regards

    theforceisback
    I hope your "someone" does not refer to me. I am also M'sian leh so we are "saudara" from the same country lah. My earlier post about "misunderstanding... of cultures and beliefs" was meant for anarchy lah cos he used very unfriendly words to hurt our brother cklee mah. Like I say, let bygones be bygones, I believe anarchy is also unintentional in causing hurts. Are we being too serious as a fun loving group ?

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    Venue: Choa Chu Kang Sports Hall

    Date: 5th of August 2006


    Time: 8am-10am

    Courts:
    Court1 (8am-->9am)
    Court7 (8am-->10am)
    Court 8 (8am-->10am)


    Confirmed Playing:

    1)theforceisback (tentative)
    2)sunder
    3)amit
    3+1) Mike T
    5) blacvios (Eric)
    6)david
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    Default Saturday Game- 5 Aug 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by cktiew
    I hope your "someone" does not refer to me. I am also M'sian leh so we are "saudara" from the same country lah. My earlier post about "misunderstanding... of cultures and beliefs" was meant for anarchy lah cos he used very unfriendly words to hurt our brother cklee mah. Like I say, let bygones be bygones, I believe anarchy is also unintentional in causing hurts. Are we being too serious as a fun loving group ?
    Hah really hah,

    U punya kampung mana? Saya berasal dari KL. Jimmy pun KL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cktiew
    I hope your "someone" does not refer to me. I am also M'sian leh so we are "saudara" from the same country lah. My earlier post about "misunderstanding... of cultures and beliefs" was meant for anarchy lah cos he used very unfriendly words to hurt our brother cklee mah. Like I say, let bygones be bygones, I believe anarchy is also unintentional in causing hurts. Are we being too serious as a fun loving group ?
    We are fun, but leave out the love.
    now, i'm afraid to put the 7th slot.

    Venue: Choa Chu Kang Sports Hall

    Date: 5th of August 2006


    Time: 8am-10am

    Courts:
    Court1 (8am-->9am)
    Court7 (8am-->10am)
    Court 8 (8am-->10am)


    Confirmed Playing:

    1)theforceisback (tentative)
    2)sunder
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    3+1) Mike T
    5) blacvios (Eric)
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    Eek , donny how could u do that, u came on the 7th spot.
    Last edited by lightsmash; 08-01-2006 at 04:43 AM.

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