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12-19-2005, 12:11 PM #1
Is this legal or not?
Rule Gurus please help.
Here is the situation. I was playing MD. I played a cross court drop shot. My opponent dove to the floor. His racket was almost flat on the ground except the handle which was in his hand. His racket hand was also touching the floor. He hit the shuttle (almost scooped it) and by some miracle came over to the other side of the net.
Mu partner was so shocked that the shuttle came over that he could not tap a simple kill. So we argued back and forth and since i was not sure what the rule was I ended up conceding the point.
So I guess the question is this legal ?
12-19-2005, 12:16 PM #2
Yes, it's legal, if the no part of the shuttle hit the floor first.
12-19-2005, 12:18 PM #3
If it was a clean hit from the strings or even off the frame then it's legal.
These sorts of diving shots are my trademark
12-19-2005, 01:06 PM #4
Q on the scoop.
when is a hit considered a scoop?
12-19-2005, 01:24 PM #5Originally Posted by jerby
that dig shot example u gave sounds legit to me
12-19-2005, 01:31 PM #6Originally Posted by cooler
Even if the motion of the racket is not continuous (like you mention in the definition of a scoop), is it still legal?
I don't remember all the details of what happened but it looked like, my opponent dove to the floor, somehow managed to stretch his hand and racket to get to the shuttle while lying flat on the floor with his hand and racket stretched. Then he made a jerky (not one continuous swing) motion of the racket and the shuttle ended up over the net.
12-19-2005, 01:52 PM #7
Ha-ha. Let me give you the answer you're looking for:
You're right, it's illegal. There, you happy now?
However, if you're basing it on the official rulebooks, it's remains legal.
12-19-2005, 02:09 PM #8Originally Posted by wood_22_chuck
I am not looking for a validation that I am correct. As I said, I conceded the point and at this point it is academic whether we won the point or not. I just wanted to understand the rule.
The reason for my second post was the point that cooler had brought up about "continuous racket motion" and I had left out that detail from my first post.
I accept that it was a valid shot and we lost that point. Peace??
12-19-2005, 02:34 PM #9
12-19-2005, 02:36 PM #10
I think most of people know an illegal scoop/carry when they see one. My personal feeling on this is as long as it is not an intensional sccop/carry, it is a legal shot. Here is the rule stating a fault.
15.8 If, in play, the shuttle:
15.8.1 Be caught and held on the racket and slung during the execution of a stroke;
Merry Christmas to Cooler (or colder in Calgory) and everyone.
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