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    Quote Originally Posted by byelnats
    First of all, why are we called "Indons"? Can't people just call us Indonesians? As far as I know, "Indons" is the words Malay ppl in Singapore use to make fun of Indonesian people.

    That's same as why indonesian call Malaysian as "malay". Hahah... now you only know how is the feel huh?
    ** Malaysian = citizen of Malaysia (We have 3 majority races such as Malay, Chinese, Indian... we have different culture and religion)
    ** Malay = Only Malay race people. All of them are Muslim.

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    I am an indonesian and i have malaysian friends of melayu or indian or chinese ethnicity who studied at the same university with me here in indonesia. As far as i can recall, we always address malaysian as "orang malaysia" never as malay. for years i never thought it was an offending nickname. But for indon terminology, it is offending. i confirm that from my malaysian friend. she said that some people in malaysia look down to indonesian people because of the large number of uneducated indonesian trying to make a living in malaysia by doing unwanted hard, dirty and dangerous jobs there. and sometimes these indonesians commit crimes in malaysia(it is a common sense that low education and economic background are factors predisposing to crime).
    When people hates something or other people, it is almost natural that they come up with bad names. hey i called my enemies who used to bully me at school bad names . And that's how indonesian get their "indon" terminology.
    as i said it is almost natural to call bad names but people can choose not to. It is hard but you can always resist the temptation. you see,there are good indonesian who are educated,kind, loving,and peaceful toward other people.

    Thank you very much for not calling us indon.

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    For the Chinese in Indonesia, I always call them as Indonesian-Chinese. Never call them Indon. But I wonder why the other country such as China, Taiwan, Hong Kong... They like to call us as Malay !!!
    I have told them I am not Malay, but Malaysian-Chinese. But they seem never understand that. For them, ppl living in Malaysia will be called Malay. And ppl living in Indonesia will be called Indon.... Hahahah... they are idiot actually

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    Well, I never call people from Malaysia simply as Malay. I call them Malaysian (I live in Penang once). I only call Malay to Melayu people from Singapore and that is because my friends who are Melayu people told me to refer to them as such. So, I don't think it is an offensive term.

    My friends called me "Indon" when they are pissed off with me. That is how I came to know that it was a name assigned to make fun of Indonesian. I think it is better just to call people from Malaysia, Malaysian; Indonesia, Indonesian; Singapore, Singaporean. Everybody is happy .

    Yeah, thank you for not calling us "Indons"

    Btw, Uluh dayak, are you going to watch the Indonesian Open? I will be in Indonesia during the Indonesian Open and I plan to watch it. Too bad it is not in Jakarta

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    Cool Conflicting shcedule?

    Make sure I understand thess schedules right:
    Indonesia Open : April 31st to May 4th;
    Thomas Cup : April 28th to May 7th;
    So why even have a Indonesia Open when most of the top players are in Japan competing Thomas Cup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Han
    Make sure I understand thess schedules right:
    Indonesia Open : April 31st to May 4th;
    Thomas Cup : April 28th to May 7th;
    So why even have a Indonesia Open when most of the top players are in Japan competing Thomas Cup?
    I believe kwun made a typo The correct date should be after Phil. Open, May 28th to June 4th. These will be followed by the neighbouring opens like Singapore and Malaysia Opens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byelnats

    Btw, Uluh dayak, are you going to watch the Indonesian Open? I will be in Indonesia during the Indonesian Open and I plan to watch it. Too bad it is not in Jakarta
    i,m so sorry for the late reply. i use public computer with limited budget in my pocket so i rarely surf. The answer for your question is no. I live far away in kalimantan so i'm pretty much stuck here if u know what i mean. Tv,newspaper and occasionally internet is all we have here. thank you for asking and enjoy th tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alloh
    For the Chinese in Indonesia, I always call them as Indonesian-Chinese. Never call them Indon. But I wonder why the other country such as China, Taiwan, Hong Kong... They like to call us as Malay !!!
    I have told them I am not Malay, but Malaysian-Chinese. But they seem never understand that. For them, ppl living in Malaysia will be called Malay. And ppl living in Indonesia will be called Indon.... Hahahah... they are idiot actually
    according to english nationality terms :

    they must called u a malaysian ,

    in indonesia, chinese have become a ethnic/tribe which called tiong hoa ethnic , they are all indonesian

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    i hav juz notice that indonesia open is on da same period as TC and UC???

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    U r rite !! The people that born and live in Malaysia is call "Malaysian". Then the 2nd question will be, what is your race? Either Chinese, Malay, Indian ....
    For me i am CHINESE !
    So wrong concept to CALL people that born and live in Malaysian as "Malay".
    The correct is is we are all "Malaysian". And i am CHINESE..


    Quote Originally Posted by byelnats
    Well, I never call people from Malaysia simply as Malay. I call them Malaysian (I live in Penang once). I only call Malay to Melayu people from Singapore and that is because my friends who are Melayu people told me to refer to them as such. So, I don't think it is an offensive term.

    My friends called me "Indon" when they are pissed off with me. That is how I came to know that it was a name assigned to make fun of Indonesian. I think it is better just to call people from Malaysia, Malaysian; Indonesia, Indonesian; Singapore, Singaporean. Everybody is happy .

    Yeah, thank you for not calling us "Indons"

    Btw, Uluh dayak, are you going to watch the Indonesian Open? I will be in Indonesia during the Indonesian Open and I plan to watch it. Too bad it is not in Jakarta

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    Quote Originally Posted by indra
    You should know:

    Taufik vs Bonsaak = 4 - 1
    Taufik vs Chen Hong = 6 -1
    Taufik vs Lindan : 3 - 2
    Taufik vs LCW = 4 -2
    Taufik vs PG = 7 -7, with the last 4 important matches won by Taufik

    Many people judge that CH, LD, LCW, PG are excellent players, but if you look at the head-to-head statistics against Taufik, we will see.

    Taufik has poorer record against Bao Chun Lai : 3-5, Wong Choon Han 3 -5

    However, Bao and Wong Choon Han have never won any single important tournament!!!
    You mean they haven't won any tournament lately because Bao took the Denmark Open in 2005 while Wong grabbed the 2003 China Open and a few others if I'm not mistaken.

    While Taufik is very good when he's on form and motivated, but lately it seems like he's not trying as hard maybe due to lack of motivation. I don't like that attitude/behavior because to me, if you are entering in a tournament, you should always try to do your best to win even if the tournament isn't a major or prestigious one. Why bother entering when you are not even going to try your best?

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    I think the head to head between Taufik & WCH is 3-7.
    But don't know why the IBF website just show 3-5.

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    denmark, confirmed by thomas lund, will participate in indonesia open 2006.

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    Hallo,my name is Osa, I am living in Vevey and just registered at badmintoncentral. Can someone tell me how to download double men matches ? I am preparing two double tournaments in Lausanne and Vevey/Switzerland.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by osahartoyo
    Hallo,my name is Osa, I am living in Vevey and just registered at badmintoncentral. Can someone tell me how to download double men matches ? I am preparing two double tournaments in Lausanne and Vevey/Switzerland.

    Thanks
    wrong topic ? go to tournament video sharing

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    Post 1st- 5th seeded in Indonesia Open

    1st- 5th seeded in Indonesia Open

    Men Singles
    1. Lee Chong Wei (Malaysia-2 IBF)
    2. Lee Hyun Il (Korsel-4 IBF)
    3. Kenneth Jonassen (Denmark-5 IBF)
    4. Bao Chunlai (Tiongkok-6 IBF)
    5. Taufik Hidayat (Indonesia-12 IBF)
    Women singles
    1. Wang Chen (Hongkong-3 IBF)
    2. Xu Huaiwen (Jerman-4 IBF)
    3. Mia Audiana (Belanda-5 IBF)
    4. Pi Hongyan (Prancis-6 IBF)
    5. Yao Jie (Belanda-7 IBF)
    Mens double
    1. Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto (Indonesia-6 IBF)
    2. Mohd Tazari Mohd Fairuzizuan/Lin Woon Fui (Malaysia-11 IBF)
    3. Gan Teik Chai/Abdul Latif Mohd Zakry (Malaysia-12 IBF)
    4. Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo (Tiongkok-13 IBF)
    5. Ohtsuka Tadashi/Masuda Keita (Jepang-15 IBF)
    Womens double
    1. Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen (Tiongkok-2 IBF)
    2. Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung (Korsel-3 IBF)
    3. Emms Gail/Kellogg Donna (Inggris-4 IBF)
    4. Ogura Kumiko/Shiota Reiko (Jepang-9 IBF)
    5. Thoungthongkam Saralee/Chankrachangwong Sathinee (Thailand-11 IBF)
    Mixed double
    1. Robertson Nathan/Emms Gail (Inggris-2 IBF)
    2. Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (Tiongkok-3 IBF)
    3. Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung (Korea-4 IBF)
    4. Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir (Indonesia-5 IBF)
    5. Clark Anthony/Kellogg Donna (Inggris-7 IBF)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dugz86
    1st- 5th seeded in Indonesia Open
    Mens double
    1. Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto (Indonesia-6 IBF)
    2. Mohd Tazari Mohd Fairuzizuan/Lin Woon Fui (Malaysia-11 IBF)
    3. Gan Teik Chai/Abdul Latif Mohd Zakry (Malaysia-12 IBF)
    4. Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo (Tiongkok-13 IBF)
    5. Ohtsuka Tadashi/Masuda Keita (Jepang-15 IBF)
    Mixed double
    1. Robertson Nathan/Emms Gail (Inggris-2 IBF)
    2. Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (Tiongkok-3 IBF)
    3. Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung (Korea-4 IBF)
    4. Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir (Indonesia-5 IBF)
    5. Clark Anthony/Kellogg Donna (Inggris-7 IBF)
    A surprisingly competitive XD field. All the top 5 pairs, except for Zhang Jun/Gao Ling are there. It's gonna be very very difficult for Nova/Butet to retain their title....unless they can beat 2 of the pairs above them. My preference is for them to meet Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen in the semi-final. Hopefully, they will avoid other dangerous pairs such as Sudket/Saralee on the route to the semi-final.

    As for MD, good chance for Markis/Hendra and esp Luluk/Alvent to win the title. With Luluk/Alvent seeded 1st and Markis/Hendra seeded 6th, they should make the quarter-final with ease. No top pairs from China, Denmark, or Malaysia also means that the only pairs providing the challenge will be the 2 young Malaysian pairs, Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo, and possibly Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae. With some luck in the draw, I hope Hendra/Joko will also make it to the quarter-final.

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