Gade launches attack against the new scoring system. Re: Why AE still on 15 points?

**2cents** · 01-17-2006, 09:32 PM

Some people are wondering why AE 2006 using still on 15 points scoring system ?

According to some news, the new scoring system was supposed to put in action at the beginning of this year. But the first 3 tournaments happen to be in Europe, the people over there dislike the new 21 points scoring system. They refuse to adopt the new system. So 21 points will be used when tournaments go back to Asia.

It was European guys proposed 7 points first, but Asian badminton organizations and their supporters didn't like it. They want the 21 points system. When the Asian guys took control of the IBF recently, they trashed the 7 points system, and enforced 21 points instead. That's also the reason the official www.worldbadminton.net (In England) down suddenly without any coorperation with the new site. The new site is in south east Asia.

Now Gade, as the leader who strongly against 21 points, asked the IBF go back to the 7 points system, or have a referendum on this issue. But the issue is who's vote can be counted.

Do we have this survey already on this forum? Which way to score is best for you? 15 ? 7 ? or 21 ?

**Eurasian =--(O)** · 01-17-2006, 09:45 PM

wow
power struggle where already there is not much power

didn't know that the 7 point system was thrashed by asia while the 21 point system is now being thrashed by europe.

**2cents** · 01-17-2006, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by 2cents

Now Gade, as the leader who strongly against 21 points, asked the IBF go back to the 7 points system, or have a referendum on this issue. But the issue is who's vote can be counted.

Do we have this survey already on this forum? Which way to score is best for you? 15 ? 7 ? or 21 ?

Gade is asking for a referendum on this issue. But the issue is whose vote can be counted. If just inside IBF officials, they already made decision. It is impossible to vote per each nation of this planet. right? For example, Malaysia should have more voice than Laos. Vote by players? Vote by fans? coaches? none of them is reasonable.

**glencomienda111** · 01-17-2006, 10:08 PM

if i was the IBF i would ask the BF'rs

**indra** · 01-17-2006, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by 2cents

Gade is asking for a referendum on this issue. But the issue is whose vote can be counted. If just inside IBF officials, they already made decision. It is impossible to vote per each nation of this planet. right? For example, Malaysia should have more voice than Laos. Vote by players? Vote by fans? coaches? none of them is reasonable.

There is no use changing the scoring system....It is a waste money, energy, time. Changing the scoring system will only cause a split inside the IBF.
It is safer to stick to the old scoring system.

What should be changed in the Badminton is the ranking-computation system. The current ranking system does not reflect the true quality of the players....

**extremeroxr** · 01-17-2006, 10:14 PM

The players should have a professional association to decide on this. Just like tennis or nba. If everyone unite, then they will have more say...

ya agree, shd ask the bfer's

**chibe_K** · 01-17-2006, 10:25 PM

Who can verify those claims coming from 2cents about Peter Gade is true....please point us to the sources where Peter Gade actually made comments about scoring system...otherwise...anyone can say "Gade one day in a coffee shop made a comment he supports the 21 scoring system and will fight for it"

**taufik-ist** · 01-17-2006, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by 2cents

Some people are wondering why AE 2006 using still on 15 points scoring system ?

According to some news, the new scoring system was supposed to put in action at the beginning of this year. But the first 3 tournaments happen to be in Europe, the people over there dislike the new 21 points scoring system. They refuse to adopt the new system. So 21 points will be used when tournaments go back to Asia.

It was European guys proposed 7 points first, but Asian badminton organizations and their supporters didn't like it. They want the 21 points system. When the Asian guys took control of the IBF recently, they trashed the 7 points system, and enforced 21 points instead. That's also the reason the official www.worldbadminton.net (In England) down suddenly without any coorperation with the new site. The new site is in south east Asia.

Now Gade, as the leader who strongly against 21 points, asked the IBF go back to the 7 points system, or have a referendum on this issue. But the issue is who's vote can be counted.

Do we have this survey already on this forum? Which way to score is best for you? 15 ? 7 ? or 21 ?

i perefer 9 points (the best of three with no rally points)

and the score order is like tenis scoring system:

10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50 (gameset)

**DinkAlot** · 01-18-2006, 01:24 AM

Go Go Gade!

Old scoring forevAR!

**eskey** · 01-18-2006, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by DinkAlot

Go Go Gade!

Old scoring forevAR!

you get my support as well for old scoring system

**peace** · 01-18-2006, 02:02 AM

Old scoring system (15-system) is the best, new scoring makes badminton lose its "meaning"....hope they get back to the old one soon

**seven** · 01-18-2006, 02:02 AM

Same here, if there has to be a change it would be 5x9 (serve scoring).

If not keep 3x15 serve scoring which has worked for years!

**seven** · 01-18-2006, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by 2cents

It was European guys proposed 7 points first, but Asian badminton organizations and their supporters didn't like it. They want the 21 points system. When the Asian guys took control of the IBF recently, they trashed the 7 points system, and enforced 21 points instead. That's also the reason the official www.worldbadminton.net (In England) down suddenly without any coorperation with the new site. The new site is in south east Asia.

For the political part, you can have a look here : http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/sho...328#post330328

***Cheung*** · 01-18-2006, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by seven

Same here, if there has to be a change it would be 5x9 (serve scoring).

If not keep 3x15 serve scoring which has worked for years!

I second that with a couple fo minor exceptions.

1 keep ladies singles at 5x7. Seems to fit the structure of 3 x11 quite similarly.

Ladies doubles at 5 x 7 - I feel the ladies doubles game actually became more interesting because the ladies came out more aggresive in the rallies.

***Cheung*** · 01-18-2006, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by taufik-ist

i perefer 9 points (the best of three with no rally points)

and the score order is like tenis scoring system:

10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50 (gameset)

You have got to be kidding

**seven** · 01-18-2006, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by Cheung

I second that with a couple fo minor exceptions.

1 keep ladies singles at 5x7. Seems to fit the structure of 3 x11 quite similarly.

Ladies doubles at 5 x 7 - I feel the ladies doubles game actually became more interesting because the ladies came out more aggresive in the rallies.

Yes, agree with this.

If I remember correctly, England had proposed to reintroduce 5x9, with WS in 5x7.
Denmark had made another proposition too, can't remember which one.

**Stuart2502** · 01-18-2006, 05:32 AM

I thought the reason that the AE were not using the new scoring system was because it was not going to be introduced until February. This would explain the date change also.