Lin Dan's "broken" racket grip...

**nicexerin** · 12-21-2007, 11:09 AM

its like racing car. you throw away things to reduce its weight.

or they want make a new trend so that people can follow their trend.

**ants** · 12-21-2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Simp84

hi ants, is that an actual Taufik's racket?

The grip looked so much different than what I had in mind! I thought he wrap his racket with an extremely large base and all the way up to before the cone (no wood expose), then ductape over the head thats about a thumb breadth down..

Just got to read this post. Hahah its Very late i would say. Yeah, that is the real Taufik's racket.

**Smichz** · 12-21-2007, 12:15 PM

It's to make the head heavier.I've tried that..but i don't like it.So not comfy..n slips alot..

***Oldhand*** · 12-21-2007, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by ants

Just got to read this post. Hahah its Very late i would say. Yeah, that is the real Taufik's racket.

It took you only just over a year to answer it

**ants** · 12-21-2007, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Oldhand

It took you only just over a year to answer it

Yeah.. Just only over a Year.. not long actually.

**Master Yoda** · 02-06-2008, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by chickenpoodle

who knows.
removing the factory grip before applying the desired grip will give more feel.
its a trade off though, feel for comfort.
ever since i started using only one layer of overgrip on the wood, i've turned part of my thumb, index and middle finger into hamburger.

I always take the factory grip off and use towel grips, and I don't experience any discomfort at all, plus the racket is then more head heavy.

**jhirata** · 02-06-2008, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Master Yoda

I always take the factory grip off and use towel grips, and I don't experience any discomfort at all, plus the racket is then more head heavy.

Head-heav'ier' if it's only wrapped up about half-way up the handle like Lin Dan's AT700

**jerby** · 02-06-2008, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Master Yoda

I always take the factory grip off and use towel grips, and I don't experience any discomfort at all, plus the racket is then more head heavy.

I do the same thing...

but the difference is that towelgrip is a replacement grip (meant to be gripped on the wood....most of the time...

) and the chickepoodles grip is an overgrip...

Quite a difference, the overgrip being 0.5mm, while towelgrip is something like 1.0-1.5mm (and cushiony

)

Though to me, towelgrip or a standardgrip...My rackets don't become headheavier...But that's me

**Master Yoda** · 02-07-2008, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by jerby

I do the same thing...

but the difference is that towelgrip is a replacement grip (meant to be gripped on the wood....most of the time...

) and the chickepoodles grip is an overgrip...

Quite a difference, the overgrip being 0.5mm, while towelgrip is something like 1.0-1.5mm (and cushiony

)

Though to me, towelgrip or a standardgrip...My rackets don't become headheavier...But that's me

It might not feel head heavier but think about it, if you take weight off the grip then the balance point will be slightly different. According to the laws of physics this is correct

**jerby** · 02-07-2008, 03:52 AM

yeah right...
According to the static balancing physics you're thinking of now... When things move, stuff changes... (only just started my eduction, so bare with me

I might be able to explain it in to detail further on down the road

)

but even so, thinking of it as quasi static...
standard racket: 90 grams, 310mm balance
towel gripped: 88 grams, 315mm balance

How are you so sure the towel gripped feels heavier?

**Master Yoda** · 02-07-2008, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by jerby

yeah right...
According to the static balancing physics you're thinking of now... When things move, stuff changes... (only just started my eduction, so bare with me

I might be able to explain it in to detail further on down the road

)

but even so, thinking of it as quasi static...
standard racket: 90 grams, 310mm balance
towel gripped: 88 grams, 315mm balance

How are you so sure the towel gripped feels heavier?

Never said it feels heavier and doesn't matter if its moving because the weight in the racket stays at the same point in the racket.

**jerby** · 02-07-2008, 04:42 AM

It's a good read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_inertia
But really, all this has been done before...5 times I guess...
The general clue is that when you swing/move/rotate things the general idea of basic moments (force x distance from center of gravity) doesn't apply...

Originally Posted by Yoda

Never said it feels heavier

Originally Posted by Yoda

It might not feel head heavier

Originally Posted by Yoda

plus the racket is then more head heavy.

I must admit, I'm terribly confused...

**Master Yoda** · 02-07-2008, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by jerby

It's a good read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_inertia
But really, all this has been done before...5 times I guess...
The general clue is that when you swing/move/rotate things the general idea of basic moments (force x distance from center of gravity) doesn't apply...

I must admit, I'm terribly confused...

I wouldn't worry about it then, its actually quite simple. But if English is your second language then some words might have a slightly different meaning to you than me. Sorry if that sounded mean, but I don't know how I could make it any simpler.

It makes so little difference anyway

**Retro_10s** · 02-11-2008, 07:57 AM

In physics i think its called the "moment arm"

torque

i agree with the others on this, in doubles i rarely move my hand down to the base of the grip unless i have enough to time to charge up for a big smash.

**Chris_mc** · 08-30-2008, 10:49 AM

I have been using my badminton racket with the towel grip in a way much like lindan's, accually, exactly the same, but without taking the original factory grip off, i did it because i kept holding near the top of the handle, now i just hold the bottom, it feels great, having the feel and the comfort of the badminton racket, i think ill use this sort of grip style for a long time to come...

I play both singles and doubles... hehe, works for both...

**jhirata** · 08-30-2008, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Chris_mc

I have been using my badminton racket with the towel grip in a way much like lindan's, accually, exactly the same, but without taking the original factory grip off, i did it because i kept holding near the top of the handle, now i just hold the bottom, it feels great, having the feel and the comfort of the badminton racket, i think ill use this sort of grip style for a long time to come...

I play both singles and doubles... hehe, works for both...

Hey, I recently changed to this style of towel-gripping and I found it great too! My shots were so much more powerful ( somehow, more control too ) because I always had to hold the racquet by the bottom. I then changed back to the normal PU over-gripping up the cone, and I lost all the power and also the timing. I tried the lin dan-style grip again, and got back the previous power that I had. I'll continue to use this grip, it's wonderful.

**painkilla86** · 09-01-2008, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by jhirata

Hey, I recently changed to this style of towel-gripping and I found it great too! My shots were so much more powerful ( somehow, more control too ) because I always had to hold the racquet by the bottom. I then changed back to the normal PU over-gripping up the cone, and I lost all the power and also the timing. I tried the lin dan-style grip again, and got back the previous power that I had. I'll continue to use this grip, it's wonderful.

so i can basicly achieving the same by forcing myself to hold the racket as low as possible?