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Thread: Yonex should re-introduce Ti-10?
03-15-2006, 07:03 PM #86Originally Posted by DinkAlot
03-15-2006, 07:05 PM #87
yah but when's the last time u see a racket's price actually
is proportion to its material cost..
03-15-2006, 07:54 PM #88
a friend of mine just brought back a Ti-10 3U from HK last month. He didn't like it, claiming the head is too heavy and offer AUS$120 to me (only used once). Since I haven't bought any racket after Cab20, I am thinking of getting the racket. Is it a good price (if genuine)? or should I offer him cheaper?
03-15-2006, 09:42 PM #89
You will be surprised to learn that 1 kilo of UHMG is enough to make 30 racquets, meaning that only about 30g-33g goes into each racquet. The rest are resins, paint (very heavy if spray-painted, like in Yonex and almost all racquets), and materials at the handle end. There is no way they are going to use the very top grade UHMG for racquets anymore. UHMG requires too much energy, and crude oil is no longer US$20/bbl. Now it is back to mass-2U racquets, wide cross-section frame, etc. To make a frame similar in power to the old Yonex Swingpower racquet, which could use very slim and narrow cross-section frame because of good grade UHMG, today's racquets have to resort to heavier and bulkier frames to control torque and maintain stiffness.
03-15-2006, 10:07 PM #90
i like the new color. it's refreshing. saw one at a shop here in singapore (bras basah) when i bought the NS6K and they were selling it to me for SGD165 with strings and free grip and thermal bag...haven't tried the old Ti-10 though but it looks good and i might just buy one to try it out
03-15-2006, 10:37 PM #91
It would be interesting to find out if a 2U racquet will drop down to a 3U or even 4U if all that paint is stripped off.
03-15-2006, 11:50 PM #92Originally Posted by taneepak
03-15-2006, 11:53 PM #93Originally Posted by taneepak
03-16-2006, 12:02 AM #94Originally Posted by zzz...
03-16-2006, 05:48 AM #95Originally Posted by taneepak
03-16-2006, 10:04 AM #96Originally Posted by taneepak
03-16-2006, 11:28 AM #97Originally Posted by taneepak
03-16-2006, 12:44 PM #98Originally Posted by taneepak
'Top grade', 'Ultra', and 'High' are all Variable terms. For example, when using a 2U racquet, I would consider it fairly heavy, however I know people who play at a perfectly good level, that use racquets that are for example a 100g frame weight, and I would consider that Extremely heavy, however not so to them; they would not consider My 2U racquet as heavy, they consider that light, and their racquet normal or 'fairly heavy' as I consider mine.
Unless there is a Standard you're talking about, where 'Top Grade Ultra High Modulus Graphite' is defined in a FIXED numerical definition, then One racquet company could have a racquet containing higher modulus graphite than their other racquets, and thus call it 'Ultra High Modulus Graphite', whereas another company may only call their racquet a 'High Modulus Graphite' Racquet while it contains the same or higher modulus graphite.
I don't know much about Suppliers of manufacturers of graphite, but it seems to me, for describing racquets, it'd be Far more precise to state some form of numerical density or whatever for the quality/modulus of graphite. I'm not sure Tensile strength would suffice either, as this is effected by certain processes in racquet manufacture, is it not?
New Ti-10s, mmm. Interesting if they truly are real, seems confirmed but, I'm still sceptical
Would be in an interesting racquet to try, IF they are At Least closely similar to the originals; I quite like 2U even-balance to head-heavy-balance racquets for doubles, and there's a couple I'd like to try (even though that's stated as head-light).
Would probably, if it is real, please a lot of people I know if it's back , of course, at the moment, they'd still have to import...I wonder if these are being planned to get supplied to other countries (by proper badminton/yonex shops / distributors in our own respective countries) where the fan-base for Ti-10s May or May not be as large?
03-16-2006, 05:51 PM #99
A well designed UHMG racquet has one distinctive feature, and that is it is built for speed. Look at the slim cross section of the frame. Try to get a Yonex Swingpower and compare its frame cross-section with all the other top grade racquets. Without UHMG the slim cross-section will kaput when hitting power shots. Just look at the AT800OF cross-section, it is like a giant box-shaped lumbering slow coach.
03-21-2006, 02:14 PM #100
BBESports has the new Ti-10 listed on their website. Pictures are nice and clean and it does say HMG on it.
03-21-2006, 02:55 PM #101
Hopefully Ti-10's will be re-introduced in the US market with the new design...
03-21-2006, 04:37 PM #102Originally Posted by Matt
1. Head Light balance (used to be balanced or a little head-heavy)
2. HMG (used to be UHMG)
3. I wonder if the head paint is no longer "matte"?
4. String holes near the joint is now with MP grommets.
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