Types of Footwork

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  1. badder16

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    Some of the players at my club have different views on footwork than I. The footwork I use going forward uses only my right foot, similar to fencing. That is also the type of footwork I've observed from some pros I watched. Two of the best players at my club find that footwork awkward, and the footwork they showed me is shuffling between the left and right foot.

    They have suggested that I change to their technique. I think the footwork I have right now is very effective for me since it is one of my assets. The reason to me why I would receive criticism is because I sometimes use the footwork meant to move forward also when I move side to side or back. It is a bad habit I'm in the process of breaking.

    Do you think I should completely change my footwork after already learning another type of footwork? There are also other aspects of my game where I am criticized, but imo it is not more that I don't know how to do it, it is more that I had a lapse of concentration, and I feel that is also the case for footwork.

    BTW, I play both singles and doubles, but the play at my club has been doubles.
     
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    if you don't tire yourself by using that footwork and find it suitable to yourself, why bother changing?
    i been using the same style as urs since i was taught in elementary schhol
     
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    By the sounds of it, you are using the chasse step?

    What you should know is that people's footwork are similar, but not the same. Some uses the chasse step, some does it almost like running. In the end, it's up to you to build the proper footwork with training :)

    So.. you can learn it, but your body will have a particular footwork style. As long as you've worked on it, don't change it.
     
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    Actually, the both are acceptable.

    Chasse = more stable
    Cross-over= faster

    I integrate the two in my footwork. To retrieve a shot I use the faster cross-over stepping; and to return to position, I chasse step my self back.

    I chasse because I have more time to back as the shuttle still passes over the net. Retrieving a shot's different since you have less time.

    Anywayz', you can try other styles or use or own style. This is mine.

    Hope this helps!
    Keith
     
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    Actually, my chasse step is well developed. I gave the cross-over footwork a try, but it feels awkward and hindering, so I think I'll stick to chasse footwork.

    I think the reason why I received criticism is that I got into the bad habit of using chasse footwork when moving side-to-side and backwards. For side-to-side and backwards, would it be correct to use shuffle steps? I've been trying to incorporate that.

    BTW, The other footwork problem I have right now is moving to the side to go around a backhand and hitting a smash on the move. Any tips?
     
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    It's faster to use cross over steps to go behind the shuttle. It is still correct to use chasse step (IBF training video actually uses chasse step to move backwards).

    That said, I use cross-over steps for forward, backwards, and chasse for most of the side to side, unless I'm forced to run.

    Tips? Train to get faster speed is perhaps your best bet.
     
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    If this makes sense, my speed is in tip-top shape, it's that my footwork is slow at times. For example, in doubles, when I cover the backcourt and the shuttle is sent to the left side, I can never seem to get into a good position to hit a good shot. I always seem to take the shuttle late, which may be a problem not concerned with footwork.

    Another problem that troubles me is when I have to move back to hit a smash. I have a mishit, probably due to me being late, and other times I hit the shuttle flat.

    Can I receiving intruction strictly on those aspects? I think if I learned to hit the shuttle while it's high more frequently, that would solve many problems.
     
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    hi badder16

    i refer to some books (by English). almost all state that movement
    around the court also depend on the following factors:

    -posture and balance
    -starting and stopping
    you may wish to look into these...

    i assume that you are right-hander with respect to covering left
    rear court in doubles.

    -what are your positioning b4 u start moving off?
    if u have difficulties covering rear court shots, u might want to consider
    taking half to one step backwards.

    -what stroke r u using to cover the left side? (overhead or backhand)

    -what foot is in front in your stance?
    it is recommended that your master foot is half a step forward.

    -what footwork r u using?

    u mentioned that u preferred using the chasse to move forward
    (and maybe backwards) and that u find cross-over awkward.
    chasse usually involves your body moving fwd (or backwards) sideways
    (shoulder facing net).
    ur body should (more or less) face the net when you use cross-over.
    that way is a more natural approach.

    as some replies have mentioned, cross-over is faster because your legs
    (cross-over, therefore) travel a longer distance.
    if u are slow in covering areas, u should also consider adopting
    this footwork.
     
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    Others have commented that my posture and balance is weird, and from my experiences I can tell you when I rapidly move forward to retrieve a drop I tend to get off balance. My position is behind my partner while he serves. To cover the left side, right now I prefer to use the overhead because my backhand is very weak. In receiving, my non-racquet foot is forward, I bend my knees, and lean forward slightly. Chasse footwork is fast for me moving forward, but going back and side-to-side is slow. I was thinking of using shuffle-type footwork when moving side-to-side and backwards. It is what I observed some pros using.
     
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    If you're not taking it late, that implies a problem on your posture when taking the shot, or problem stopping your movement.

    Anyway, let's go back a step.
    You mentioned that your speed is tip-top but your footwork is slow?
    Do you:
    1. Split step before moving?
    2. or do you have step issues?

    If you have done a split step before moving, then the issue is that your footwork speed is slow. If 2 is your problem, then you need footwork correction. If you have correct footwork and have done split step (properly), then you need to increase your footwork speed through training.

    Another thing is that some shots can't be taken with overhead, no matter what you do. Hence, you should also train your backhand.
     
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    Re: Footwork

    Hi badder16

    pls take note that bad posture (regardless if playing badminton) is a
    bad habit and should be corrected as early as possible.

    (quote)
    "if u have difficulties covering rear court shots, u might want to consider
    taking half to one step backwards."
    i meant to say to stand in your normal mid-court position, but stand at half
    a step to one step behind your normal positioning.

    -if you are slow in moving back, try to run back, or move back in big steps
    (some pros run back in time for jump smash)
    -try doing some aerobics exercises (eg. burpees) to improve your reflexes...
    -also try to anticipate opponent's reply... it helps.
    -don't be a 'sleeping' player... try to move around (or at least about) to
    keep your alertness.

    my 2¢, hope it helps!
     
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