Thread: Shoulder Pains
04-12-2006, 09:58 PM #1
recently ive been getting some shoulder pains that have been affecting my play quite a bit. it happens everytime i have my arm directly above me at the 12 o clock position when i am making a revolution from the back to the front on attempts to clear or smash. Its really awkward because i used to have it when i first started badminton. It may be due to a recent long tournament but thats been a week now...
any ways im just wondering if anyone else experiences these kind of pains and if there is any advice available..
p.s. i will be visiting the doc's when i get the chance..
04-12-2006, 10:14 PM #2
well i have elbow pain when i play after 30 mins
04-12-2006, 10:38 PM #3
It can happen when you put too much stress on the affected area or if you don't hit the shots with the proper motion. In the last case, you can be overworking some parts in your shoulder, which can hurt.
04-12-2006, 11:24 PM #4
where is exactly you pain...in the joint of in the muscle(deltoids)??
may be tendinitis if the pain is in the join.
well...i'm agree with devilicious, he's saying the true.
04-13-2006, 03:49 AM #5
I can tell you exactly what it is....
It is a form of tendonitis. Possibly calcific tendonitis.
In the shoulder, the humoral head (top of the arm bone) is held into the shoulder socket by the rotator cuff tendons and associated muscles/ligaments. Between the joints there is connective tissue and a bursa (liquid sac).
It is common for arthritis/bursitis to occur in the region and can often involve the development of calcium deposits around the joint that rub against the tendons when they move in their sheath, causing inflammation and even sometimes small tears.
Excessive use of the limb (arm) can also cause inflammation of the connective tissues and tendons, again resulting in pain when moving the arm.
There is a possibility that you have a calcific/bone spur on the end of your acromion (top of the shouler), which has reduced the gap between your humoral head and the acromion. This results in a situation called Impingement, meaning the tendons get trapped between the bones when the shoulder is rotated.
This can be treated with anti-inflammatory drugs, local anaesthetic injections, steroid injections (into the joint) and physiotherapy.
It is sensible to visit your Doctor to assess the problem and they may send you for an Ultrasound, which will identify the extent of the damage. If there are only small tears in the rotator cuff tendons, they are unlikely to do surgery as they will heal once the inflammation has receded. If large tears are noticed, they will need surgical reattachment. If you have severe impingement due to bone development on the acromion, they can conduct arthroscopic surgery to 'clean' the debris away and remove impingement.
Quite often the first line treatments are anti-inflammatory drugs, physiotherapy and possibly steroid injections. These work in most cases.
I have been suffering for about 18-20 months with calcific tendonitis and impingement in my shoulders that has caused some minor tears of the tendons. I have had 4 steroid injections over that period and two ultrasounds. I have another appointment with my consultant next week. Things are improving though, as at one point I couldn't move my arm at all (frozen shoulder).
Get to see you Doctor and in the mean-time, make sure you warm-up and warm-down properly to reduce the risks of sudden inflammation.
04-14-2006, 06:44 PM #6
thnx for replies..
theres somethign really weird about it tho, the shoulder does not hurt AT ALL unless in certain positions. And i dont think its surface pain so its definately something on the inside.
Due to the fact that it only hurts in certain positions, im guessing it probably is a joint problem.
04-15-2006, 06:15 AM #7Originally Posted by Gosupizza
In any case, how about less of this guessing and more of seeing a doctor
04-15-2006, 01:49 PM #8
Scoobz, the calcific tendonitis affect the kness too??
04-15-2006, 09:57 PM #9
if your referring to pain directly below the knees (like a bump right udner the knee) its most likely osgood schlatter (prob not spelt right) which again is from inflammation (i've got this crapt o deal with too >.<).
04-15-2006, 11:04 PM #10
I am a doctor but not a sports specialist. I assume badminton is very important to you as you are writing on this forum, the best thing for you is to see a Sport medicine specialist and get an MRI of the right shoulder done.
X-rays will often not pick up soft tissue / tendon injuries and bone scans will tell you something is wrong but is non-specific.
It is important to rule out bad things that warrants medical treatment first, then you can put it down to minor things and treat conservatively and heal with rest, warm up, streching etc. etc.
04-15-2006, 11:10 PM #11
P.S - Ultrasound is good too, but it is very operator dependent. Meaning that if you have a unskilled / inexperienced person doing it, it'll be no good for other doctors to interpret it as the images taken may be undiagnostic, it is a real-time study sometimes.
So, for ultrasound, you need to go to places where there are good musculoskeletal radiologist, again, sport physician / orthopedic surgeons with special interest in shoulder / sports medicine would know exactly where to refer for a shoulder ultrasound.
But the safest bet is MRI shouler with a good magnet, as you can seek second opinion with the images captured.
04-15-2006, 11:29 PM #12
but.....osgood schlatter?? is like an inflammation only??
04-16-2006, 11:23 AM #13
The comments regarding MRI and Ultrasound are indeed very true. I have a very good consultant (Mr Shaw) and he specialises in shoulder problems. The Ultrasound Consultant (Mr Taylor) I went to see is also very talented and hence I obtained accurate results regarding my situation.
I have also been seeing a rheumatologist for about 18 months about my problems (in several places around my body) and results indicate a high uric acid level in my blood and I have had several flare-ups of gouty arthritis in some locations (foot, fingers and shoulder). I also have bursitis flare-ups in my hips, so I suffer a variety of annoyances.
The company I work for has a respected name in the manufacture of JointCare products ranging from simple Cod Liver Oil through to mixtures of Glucosamine, Chondroitin, Cod Liver Oil and Amino Acid complexes, all recognised as being beneficial in maintaining healthy joints. The issues faced in relation to joint pain are therefore my daily routine and include my own health issues.
I actually have an appointment with my consultant on Tuesday to review my previous Ultrasound and determine whether I need surgery to repair the number of small tears in my rotator cuff that has been caused by the calcific tendonitis and acromial impingement. I wonder what is said.. hopefully it is good news.
04-16-2006, 01:37 PM #14Originally Posted by Xaviman
This is a simple one for the lay person:
If you are medically inclined, read this, a bit more depth:
Can also GOOGLE any questions.
04-16-2006, 05:15 PM #15
keep in mind that it may not be osgood that you have... its just osgood is freakishly common...
04-16-2006, 08:13 PM #16
i have no idea about the osgood schlatter
04-16-2006, 08:14 PM #17Originally Posted by eizmed
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